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Trump, In Interview, Moderates Views but Defies Conventions [Doesn't Believe In Waterboarding]
NYTimes ^ | November 22, 2016 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR, JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 11/22/2016 6:43:53 PM PST by Steelfish

Trump, In Interview, Moderates Views but Defies Conventions By MICHAEL D. SHEAR, JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MAGGIE HABERMAN NOV. 22

Donald J. Trump on Tuesday with Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., the publisher of The New York Times, right. Credit Hiroko Masuike/The New York Times President-elect Donald J. Trump tempered on Tuesday some of his most extreme campaign promises, dropping his vow to jail Hillary Clinton, expressing doubt about the value of torturing terrorism suspects and pledging to have an open mind about climate change.

But in a wide-ranging hourlong interview with reporters and editors at The New York Times — which was scheduled, canceled and then reinstated after a dispute over the ground rules — Mr. Trump was unapologetic about flouting some of the traditional ethical and political conventions that have long shaped the American presidency.

He said he had no legal obligation to establish boundaries between his (snip)

He displayed a jumble of impulses, many of them conflicting. He was magnanimous toward Mrs. Clinton, but boastful about his victory. He was open-minded about some of his positions, uncompromising about others.

The interview demonstrated the volatility in Mr. Trump’s positions.

He said he had no interest in pressing for Mrs. Clinton’s prosecution over her use of a private email server or for financial acts committed by the Clinton Foundation. (snip)

On the issue of torture, Mr. Trump suggested he had changed his mind about the value of waterboarding after talking with James N. Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general, who headed the United States Central Command.

“He said, ‘I’ve never found it to be useful,’” Mr. Trump said. He added that Mr. Mattis found more value in building trust and rewarding cooperation with terrorism suspects: “‘Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers, and I’ll do better.’”

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; interview; nyt; sulzberger; trumpagenda; trumptransition
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1 posted on 11/22/2016 6:43:53 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

That p*ssed me off. I am resolute.

I would’ve told the NYT to shove it.

Why on earth did Trump give a failing rag an interview?


2 posted on 11/22/2016 6:48:24 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Steelfish

“On the issue of torture, Mr. Trump suggested he had changed his mind about the value of waterboarding after talking with James N. Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general”

I actually don’t believe this. Waterboarding works if they have something to tell. If they don’t then it doesn’t. I don’t believe that Mattis thinks that waterboarding doesn’t work.


3 posted on 11/22/2016 6:48:25 PM PST by Castigar
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To: Steelfish
Suddenly the NY Slime, even after its mea culpa, is to be believed? Hogwash. A leopard cannot change its spots, and neither can the NY Slime tell the truth. Never let the truth get in the way of the agenda.
4 posted on 11/22/2016 6:48:57 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Steelfish

Well if he backs out then I will not have his back.


5 posted on 11/22/2016 6:50:30 PM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: stockpirate

I said that to JimRob.

Let’s not defend him when he goes wobbly.

I did not vote for THAT Trump.


6 posted on 11/22/2016 6:53:14 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop

Growing up in New York, he seems to still think the NY Times is the “paper of record” and has power. He needs to leave it behind and stick with the “new media” strategy. They didn’t deserve a special meeting instead of being in the room with the 100 other people yesterday.


7 posted on 11/22/2016 6:55:29 PM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: goldstategop

Expect some wobbliness. Trump has held many positions over the years. He isn’t an ideologue. Take comfort in most of his current or hinted cabinet picks. At least (most of) the people around him will be solid.


8 posted on 11/22/2016 6:55:58 PM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: stockpirate

Trump’s plan for deportation is NOT to deport all illegals as we once said on the campaign trail, but only those with criminal records. Let’s see how he deals with mayors who defy him on sanctuary cities. If he caves in, then I’ll have a problem wit him.


9 posted on 11/22/2016 6:57:52 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: goldstategop

I will not support him st ALL if he dumps the biggest part of his platform. Torture is no biggie, I’ll trust the General.


10 posted on 11/22/2016 6:59:10 PM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: goldstategop

“Why on earth did Trump give a failing rag an interview?”

I thought he would speak directly to the people. The media will always cut, splice and take words out of context!


11 posted on 11/22/2016 7:11:10 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: goldstategop

I keep getting this nagging feeling that we’ve been had. I know the Clintons went to his wedding. I know that Ivanka and Chelsea are best friends. Did they work together and con us? There are things that bother me. And calling the Clintons “good people” is one thing I can’t stomach. Can anyone explain it where it makes sense other than “That’s just politics.”?


12 posted on 11/22/2016 7:13:00 PM PST by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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Waterboarding has saved hundreds of innocent lives. Very probably thousands.

If the general thinks that waterboarding is ‘bad’ or ineffective then he is just another naïve, empty suit. In my experience, most generals are.

I have to assume that Trump listens to more than one set of council. He needs to review the material collected by the Agency through hard interrogation and then decide for himself if the benefit outweighs the cost.


13 posted on 11/22/2016 7:16:58 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: Steelfish
Clinton and waterboarding are not planks in a platform. Getting tough on terrorists is a plank and maybe waterboarding might help with a small percentage of terrorists. The rest either resist or would have squealed with gentler interrogation). Draining the swamp is an important plank, prosecuting Hillary is not that important.

As for global warming, Trump will tear up and maybe renegotiate deals where we have to hobble our economy for a phantom threat while China and the rest do essentially nothing. I'm sure Trump recognizes that fossil fuels are required for a strong economy and that's the only way to make progress in technology that leaves fossil fuels in the dust.

14 posted on 11/22/2016 7:51:54 PM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer

According to the article, Trump has also tempered his view on climate change.


15 posted on 11/22/2016 7:55:59 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: TheTimeOfMan

So this Marine General, who has been in combat, and is by all accounts loved by his fellow Marines, is “an empty suit.” Please.... let us know your accomplishments so we can compare them.


16 posted on 11/22/2016 8:03:21 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Terry Mross

Let me guess. You honestly believed everything Donald Trump said on the campaign trail? HA. Like they’re saying... his detractors took him literally but not seriously, and his supporters took him seriously but not literally. Apparently you are one of the few who took him seriously AND literally.


17 posted on 11/22/2016 8:05:05 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Terry Mross
It's politics. If Trump were to say he is going after the Clinton's then it looks like a vendetta. Better to let his new AG make the decisions and continue the ongoing investigations, especially into the Clinton Foundation and Trump stay above it and concentrate on trying to get his agenda passed and implemented.

Ultimately I hope they get indictments on the Clinton Foundation and force it's liquidation and closure. That will end the Clinton's and especially Bill Clinton's legacy for sure. Both are in bad health and probably will be dead soon enough.

18 posted on 11/22/2016 8:16:52 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Steelfish

It will be up to Sessions to appoint a special prosecutor (Rudy) leaving Donald’s hands clean.


19 posted on 11/22/2016 8:17:58 PM PST by Despot of the Delta (It's time for Trump to become Vlad the Impaler. I want Progressive/Globalist/Establishment heads)
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To: Steelfish

Well it is basically correct to say man has an impact. Judith Curry and many other prominent scientists point out that the impact is small.


20 posted on 11/22/2016 8:22:39 PM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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