Trump Makes Case for Electoral College

Townhall.com ^ | November 15, 2016 | Jason Hopkins

[Peter ODonnell]

If it’s true that they don’t count all the votes once a state is declared, that’s not a good thing, count all the votes. Whatever the impact on the popular vote, I don’t really care about that aspect, just count all the votes.

It’s important that everyone would know the actual outcome of the election rather than making assumptions.

Also, it’s just an invitation to voter fraud to have large stacks of uncounted votes, what’s to stop dishonest officials from sending off presumed unwanted opposition votes to that never-counted room?

[mmichaels1970]

If the Electoral College was made up of members, who vote how their individual Congressional Districts voted, we would really see the Presidency reflect the wishes of American Voters at the time of the Presidential Election.

I believe this is what the Founding Fathers intended prior to the development of political parties.

I agree with you. And I don't think there's anything stopping any state from adopting this. 48 out of 50 states adopt the "winner take all" approach, but I believe it is up to them ultimately to determine their electors and there is nothing a federal mandate constitutionally can or should do to change that.

IIRC, a state could even forgo a popular vote entirely and decide to choose their electors based on a different method, for example a state legislature vote.

[Yulee]

“In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse [sic] from them by Ballot the Vice President.”

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Seems the intent was that the person receiving the second highest number of Electoral College votes, would be Vice-President. Of course this was prior to the development of political parties and running a candidate for both President and Vice-President on the same ticket.

Is there a law establishing that both the Presidential Candidate and Vice-Presidential Candidate be on the same ticket?

[mc5cents]

Prager University has an excellent video on the Electoral College. Watch

[stylin19a]

Some are even saying his victory is illegitimate because he did not win over the majority of voters

Neither did Bill Clinton - twice.

[dsm69]

Too many folks in influence continue to ignore the millions of illegal votes cast by noncitizens each election. Trump won the popular vote of legally cast votes by CITIZENS!!!

The sole reason Clinton “won” the popular vote was due to massive noncitizen voter fraud!

Thank God for the Electoral College!!

http://dennismichaellynch.com/obama-tells-illegal-dreamer-ok-vote/

[mmichaels1970]

Is there a law establishing that both the Presidential Candidate and Vice-Presidential Candidate be on the same ticket?

I'm no expert. But my guess is that there can be no FEDERAL law requiring this. I believe the method by which electors are selected in a presidential election is left entirely up to the states. However we live in a time where all 50 of the states have determined that every electoral vote cast for president is required to cast the same party vote for vice president.

However, I'm not aware of anything that would prevent a state from changing its mind. For example, I believe a state could choose to have separate popular votes to determine a slate of electors for president and vp, thereby making it possible that the its electors might go with one party for president and another for vp.

Don't take my word on that though, I just think its a fun conversation to have.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I was worried about his criticism of the Electoral College in the 60 Minutes interview, but this clarification shows that he is listening to good people and is still willing to learn.

[Gene Eric]

Staten Island and Suffolk counties, New York went red. So ratio is worse than depicted.

[Yulee]

“IIRC, a state could even forgo a popular vote entirely and decide to choose their electors based on a different method, for example a state legislature vote.”
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Very true.

Site below lets you see how different suggestions for reform would effect the 2012 election. Can’t wait to see the 2016 models.

http://www.270towin.com/alternative-electoral-college-allocation-methods/

[Kaslin]

I was worried about his criticism of the Electoral College in the 60 Minutes interview, but this clarification shows that he is listening to good people and is still willing to learn.

Quite the pleasant opposite from that arrogant pos who currently occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, isn't it?

[crusty old prospector]

The face of urban squalor!

[Kaslin]

Because he wants to be president of All Americans. Unlike 0bama who made it clear many times that he wanted to be president only to the democrats regardless of color.

[Kaslin]

I sure hope some of those idiots did not talk her into changing her mind.

[tophat9000]

Ive never heard of Chesterton’s fence. But understand the principal implicitly. It under a personal Axiom “things have a reason”and “what are you trying to accomplish”

In any groupe there will be policies and procedures that you don’t understand or people have forgotten why they’re doing it.

but you cannot remove it willy-nilly

Examine the policy and see what it was put in place for what was it trying to accomplish what was its reason

Once you understand what its intent was then you can make modifications.or not if needed

it’s like disassembling and putting back together a car you don’t leave out of parts of because you don’t understand exactly what the part does... what was its reasons what was it there to accomplish?

you have to understand what it does so you can properly put it back together when you repairing it

[Kaslin]

Thanks for the link. The video is excellent and very encouraging.

[outpostinmass2]

The left is all about fairness, isn’t it?

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No

[Brown Deer]

A lot of Trump-haters are criticizing Trump for winning the Electoral College, but not the popular vote. Some are even saying his victory is illegitimate because he did not win over the majority of voters.

but, 3 million votes were cast by illegal aliens and absentee ballots were never tabulated by most states. The real fact is, Trump won the majority of legitimate votes, whether those crybabies like it or not.

[simpson96]

Great graphic. And those numbers are IN SPITE OF the cheating Hillary’s side did.

[Shark24]

People have accused me of excessive optimism at times in my life so my new goal is to have Los Angeles county go Red in 2020. Wish me luck, I figure I need to start knocking on doors tomorrow. :)