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The Obama Foundation
Obama Foundation ^ | 15 Nov 16 | Self

Posted on 11/15/2016 5:59:08 AM PST by SkyPilot

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To: Liz

I am thrilled that he ran and is headed to office. I really don’t know who else could have turned the blue Midwestern states “red”.

But I would prefer that he speak truths about Soros and the rioters than lies about the goodness of Bill and Hill.

I think he and some of his team are probably still a bit naive about Soros and other leftist funders and “community organizers” somehow letting up on their criminal agitation if somehow he would just be nice enough.

21 posted on 11/15/2016 6:48:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: shooter223

The Clintons keep under wraps all that info about their vast holdings and interests in real estate, gold mines, oil, uranium, telecommunications....and so on.

Nothing is known abut this aspect of their gargantuan wealth.

22 posted on 11/15/2016 6:48:41 AM PST by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SkyPilot


23 posted on 11/15/2016 6:49:57 AM PST by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker or possibly fake hacker)
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To: Liz

Where do you get the information that Kenya now receives more US foreign aid than Israel does? Israel has been at the top of the list for years and to be replaced by Kenya would have been BIG news - not MSM news - but online and elsewhere. What is your source? There isn’t anything in any search that turns up Kenya as the top recipient.

Where is the source that the obozo foundation will administer the $100 million given to Morocco from the State Department? Again, I don’t find anything in a search that states that in the following link.

“”The Millenium Challenge Corporation, an independent U.S. Government foreign-aid agency, is expected to give nearly $100 million dollars to invest in a new model for secondary education in Morocco, the announcement stated. The U.S. Agency for International Development will also invest $40,000 to build five girls’ dormitories, known as “Dar Talibas”, by the next school year.””

You need to state the sources of the material you post. I don’t know if you’re guilty of telling freepers to “look it up yourself” but there are certainly others who do. When something is posted that is glaringly questionable, of course people will start searching for the validity of such information. Most people would know that Israel has been the top recipient of U. S. foreign aid for years and of course, it’s going to be questioned. It’s foolish for people to accept at face value what they read without question.

I admire the time/effort/energy you put in your posts but they need to be accurate. I believe you told me once that it really doesn’t take much of your time.

24 posted on 11/15/2016 6:56:29 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: BenLurkin

xlintonista foundation & obammy foundation are basically out of business.

nobody holding office to peddle US gummit access/assets.

no stock in trade = no donations.

ding dong

25 posted on 11/15/2016 7:00:11 AM PST by thinden
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To: Liz

Considering the way the Clintons operate, your answer does not surprise me in the least. Perhaps the ongoing investigation of the foundation will bring a lot of hidden stuff to light.

26 posted on 11/15/2016 7:06:53 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Thank You Rush


27 posted on 11/15/2016 7:24:28 AM PST by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SkyPilot you think this organization is tax exempt?

28 posted on 11/15/2016 7:25:51 AM PST by BlissinNC
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To: Liz; 9YearLurker

66 days to go

29 posted on 11/15/2016 7:26:50 AM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: shooter223
Bill is an inveterate globe-trotter----I'm sure they used the Madoff MO. When he went to jail, investigators found Ponzi King Bernie Madoff had stashed billions offshore-----into a labyrinth of financial entities.

COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACIES GALORE Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances.

But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny.


WIKI.COM NAILS THE MADOFF OPERATION (emphasis added) Stanley Chais, a "philanthropist" who invested heavily with Mr. Madoff, and Carl J. Shapiro, one of the money manager's oldest friends, are among at least eight Madoff investors and associates being scrutinized by the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan. Prosecutors are continuing to probe Madoff family members and employees.

Others include: Frank Avellino, a Florida accountant who ran an investment fund that invested client money; Noel Levine, a real-estate investor who works out of a two-room office on the 17th floor, next door to Madoff's fraudulent investment operation, and Palm Beach investor Robert Jaffe, a son-in-law of Mr. Shapiro who referred potential investors to Madoff.

Entity called Madoff Securities International Ltd.----In 2008, about $1 billion was transferred between Madoff’s U.S. firm and Madoff Securities International Ltd. in London. On March 24, 2009 Judge Louis L. Stanton granted power of attorney to Irving Picard, trustee, over Madoff's controlling stake in London.

Authorities in the U.K. are seeking evidence of money laundering involving the London business, Madoff Securities International Ltd., which opened in 1983 as a separate legal entity from Mr. Madoff's U.S. New York office.

He allegedly sent more than $250 million beginning as early as 2002, from his New York-based firm, Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC, to the U.K. office and then back to accounts in the U.S.

In 2000, Madoff began to add staff and expand the operation, and loaned the business $62.5 million. He had a staff of 25, including traders, managers and support. Instructions to staff was that they communicate with Madoff Securities through personal e-mail accounts, not through company e-mail.

There were nine directors. Family members with shares included Mark and Andrew Madoff, Peter Madoff, and Bernard himself. Ruth Madoff, Bernard Madoff's wife, also held shares. [8] Non-family members with shares included Maurice J. "Sonny" Cohn. Madoff and Cohn were shareholders in Cohmad Securities, which steered investors to Mr. Madoff's advisory business.

In 1987, Mr. Cohn had shares of Madoff Holdings Ltd., a predecessor to the current London firm. In 1998, Mr. Cohn held 35,624 non-voting shares, some of which he transferred to "BL Madoff" in 1998, and the rest that he "disposed of" in 2004.

Paul Konigsberg, a New York City accountant and a longtime friend for more than 25 years, prepared two Madoff Family Foundation tax returns, and received the non- voting shares, valued at $35,000. He did work for the London office when it was first opened. [8]

A general ledger of Madoff accounts listed Konigsberg, of the reputable accounting firm of Konigsberg, Wolf & Co., as receiving $30,000 a month to advise the MSIL operations, and funnel client checks to the London office for Madoff's own use.[9]

Clients were often directed to Mr. Konigsberg by Mr. Madoff and his family. Mr. Konigsberg prepared the tax returns of foundations of six other families, many of which have lost millions, even hundreds of millions, of dollars. He also represented scores of individual Madoff investors.

Mr. Konigsberg's firm has received a civil subpoena from the SEC. His Madoff-related clients included Carl and Ruth Shapiro, Boston philanthropists whose foundation lost $145 million, and whose son-in-law, Robert M. Jaffe, under investigation, is a Madoff business partner.[9][10]

Konigsberg held Madoff accounts under his name including two in the name of the Westlake Foundation. Paul J. and Judith Konigsberg are officers and directors of the foundation. He owns homes in his wife, Judith's name in Greenwich, Connecticut and Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.[11]

On April 20, 2009, Steven Leber filed a $4 million lawsuit against Konigsberg and his accounting firm for negligence, and breach of fiduciary duty.[12] Konigsberg answered the charges with affirmative defenses.[13]

Evidence is being gathered by investigators on a U.S.-U.K. task force that Konigsberg and Levy, a real-estate mogul and philanthropist are believed to be involved in an international transfer of money. Levy is believed to have helped Paul Konigsberg funnel checks to London. And investigators in New York say there were billions of dollars worth of checks going back and forth between Madoff and Levy.


One Levy entity---a "do-good tax-exempt foundation" "says" it "lost" $224 million "investing" with Madoff. Supposedly the foundation helped the "less fortunate," especially ex-convicts. NOTE "losing investment money" is a tax-write-off.


Looks like Madoff helped himself to his "investors'" money. The suckers
thought Madoff was just doing them a favor---money-laundering, and tax evasion.

Right Bill?

30 posted on 11/15/2016 7:28:34 AM PST by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SkyPilot

Congress needs to ban this crap.

31 posted on 11/15/2016 7:36:17 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: Liz


That’s what I thought. Can’t back it up!

32 posted on 11/15/2016 7:39:01 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

You actually think? Man, that’s gotta go down in medical history.

33 posted on 11/15/2016 7:49:00 AM PST by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Honorary Serb

0vomit is going on a foreign trip this week. Is it to return money? Or is it to scrape up what he can before he is out of office?

34 posted on 11/15/2016 7:54:54 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Thank You Rush; Liz

I don’t think you are providing original sources for the cast majority of your comments on FR, Thank You Rush, are you?

Liz has the sources and she knows her stuff. She is trying to get information she has collected into the discussion as quickly as possible.

She could provide specific sources, as needed, but I won’t hold you or her to always MLA citing references. Sounds good?

35 posted on 11/15/2016 8:43:38 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: SkyPilot

Maybe Zero can use his own money to pursue all those good works...

36 posted on 11/15/2016 9:06:20 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“”Liz has the sources and she knows her stuff””

Why? Because she posts a lot and no one questions her? Why do you feel the need to defend her posts? Where are her sources? Do you check out any of the “facts” she posts or just accept them without question?

Her reply to me about sources in my post was “HUH?” Why do you think that was her only reply?

It doesn’t take a genius to search for U.S. foreign aid and I defy anyone to find any record where Israel is not at the top of the list and has been for years and it stuck out like a sore thumb. I didn’t put a source on that post about foreign aid as it certainly wasn’t needed for MOST informed people. Have fun looking for anything I have posted as fact without a source.

If you are going to accept what someone writes without checking for accuracy, it seldom works out. In fact, it usually is proven to be quite troublesome.

Yesterday a freeper posted about the protesters against Trump being paid and that it was AGAINST THE LAW to organize protesters. That thread got about 40 replies and only two or three of us bothered to read the code that was cited and it had nothing to do with organizing protesters but like good lemmings, everyone piled on.

Why is it bothersome to actually get posts accurate? We can have a free exchange of ideas/opinions here on FR but let’s be sure we know what we’re talking about! That’s the way some of us operate in our private lives and the reason most freepers turn up their noses at the MSM...

37 posted on 11/15/2016 9:49:19 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: generally

Good point. I think Obama is going to try and shake the trees for money. Let’s see....Greece, Germany, Peru. He is meeting with the Satanic Illuminati member Merkel, no doubt to ensure Muslims keep invading and destroying Europe. I am sure Obama and Soros get a cut of this action. The Peru trip is for the Asia Pacific Cooperation Summit. Oh yea, LOTS OF DIRTY DEALS AND CA$H there to be had. Obama will try to sell the American taxpayer and worker to the highest bidder. He is lining his pockets even now.

38 posted on 11/15/2016 9:50:09 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Liz

Madoff went to prison because the prosecutors did their job and had the desire to enforce the law. Hopefully the prosecutors under the Trump administration will have the same desire when it comes to the Clintons. P.S. I often read your posts with great interest, you obviously do your research.

39 posted on 11/15/2016 10:13:04 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Liz

Insults go a long way when someone is backed into a corner.

40 posted on 11/15/2016 10:22:22 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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