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LOSING INTERNET FREEDOM: Obama kisses America’s internet oversight good-bye
Frontpage Mag ^ | Deborah Weiss | By DEBORAH WEISS, ESQ. October 7, 2016

Posted on 10/06/2016 9:55:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: dp0622
This is the man our fellow countrymen voted in, twice. yeah, there was fraud. but not 5 million voters worth. If even 60 million out of the 65 million thought this was a good man, that’s BAD.

and we expect the American voters to vote Trump in 2016... I try to remain optimistic. But any country that votes Obama in not just once, but twice...I have my doubts.

21 posted on 10/07/2016 1:36:00 AM PDT by wright2bear
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To: bushwon; Carry me back; Arthur Wildfire! March

Oops! I need to turn in LOL waay to tired to post more

I posted #14 and Arthur Wildfire! March posted #17


22 posted on 10/07/2016 1:37:56 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Call Congress today to support the PROTECTING INTERNET FREEDOM ACT SB3034 HR5418)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

So far as I know the ICANN giveaway is out of our hands politically now.

It’s important to be ready to skuttle ICANN’s power legislatively just as soon as Trump is elected — even any treaties they might cleave to in order to retain power. EVEN if it means sending the UN packing.


Well I drew a little optimism from this paragraph (below) at the bottom of the posted article on this thread...I may pursue now that I have had sufficient time to grieve losing the CR...

Article did have some interesting points...surprised at some of the comments here...thanks for joining the discussion :)

From the article:
Champions of freedom[3] are exploring ways to take back internet oversight, but the possibilities look bleak. One possibility is to appeal the Texas Court’s decision denying the motion made by the Republican Attorneys General. The other is to proceed to court in a full-fledged trial. Still another option is to pass legislation to try to take back control of the internet (since technically, it has already passed as of October 1, 2016). In the meantime, ICANN is trying to implement the transfer as quickly as possible, seeking completion prior to the U.S. Presidential election in November of 2016, just in case the new President disagrees with Obama’s view regarding America’s role in internet oversight.

At the stroke of midnight on September 30, 2016, in furtherance of Obama’s anti-exceptional, post-American, global agenda, the certainty of the internet’s security, stability, and freedom has vanished into thin air, only to be replaced by one big global question mark.


23 posted on 10/07/2016 1:42:57 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Call Congress today to support the PROTECTING INTERNET FREEDOM ACT SB3034 HR5418)
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To: wright2bear

There were roughly 65 MILLION people whose brain functions led to the conclusion that obama was the best choice to lead the country.

Cannot compute.


24 posted on 10/07/2016 2:35:49 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: bushwon

‘... I may pursue now that I have had sufficient time to grieve ...’

Not really. We’re in a geopolitical struggle — no time to grieve. We have other battles to wage.

But we all need R&R, especially guys like you who have a job, and I assume a family.

BTW ...

... did you feel any energy in Twitter? How did it go?


25 posted on 10/07/2016 3:04:59 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Talisker

This was a treaty; why was congress bypassed?


26 posted on 10/07/2016 4:00:40 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Stay ignorant, my friends! (if you watch mainstream media, you will!))
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To: Mr_Moonlight; bushwon; Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks, Mr. M., for telling us that EFF exists:

Electronic Freedom Foundation


27 posted on 10/07/2016 5:46:32 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: Carry me back

You are right, of course, that the uncensored “Wild West” flagrant free flow of knowledge undermines Progressive anti-education of the last 100 years. Mustn’t be too free, too informed, too thoughtful!

We’ve been watching little nibbles at taking internet discourse out of the individual’s control via taxation, hate word censorship, anti-mean chat agenda, but we weren’t having it. So this transfer neatly begins to solve the problem for statists. They never foresaw that an invention of a free, capitalist, for profit economic system would educate the populace against them! Too ironic for words that Bill Gates turned into an enemy of freedom. A brilliant engineer he is, a political philosopher he’s not.


28 posted on 10/07/2016 6:03:42 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: The Westerner
Actually it's the "Electronic Frontier Foundation ... but it might as well be called Electronic Freedom Foundation, because this is their mission. EFF has been around since just before the Internet went public, circa 1990, and it has been an advocate for freedom ever since.

I trust their judgement in these matters, and if EFF says that transferring ICANN oversight from US government control over to international control isn't really a problem, then I trust EFF for their assessment.

Sometimes we, all of us, need to just chill a bit and research these things instead of knee-jerk reacting to all the red-meat that gets thrown around.

I'm not saying that EFF is correct in their assessment, but what I'm saying is that they are trusted source and their opinion ought to be considered within this discussion.

~ MM ~

29 posted on 10/07/2016 6:09:48 AM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (Deplorable American Citizen ... and damn PROUD of it !!!)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Not gonna chill — until the last breath leaves my body.

This country is on the verge of a civil war, world war, evonomic collapse. There is no America to run to. We are fighting at the leading edge of the storm.


30 posted on 10/07/2016 6:28:51 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: The Westerner
This country is on the verge of a civil war, world war, evonomic collapse. There is no America to run to. We are fighting at the leading edge of the storm.

Well OK, I'm with ya on that, and agree that troubled times are here and now ... but that has nothing to do with the ICANN Internet thing, which is the topic of this discussion.

On that note, the 'Internet' can't really be stopped. Well, maybe on the surface it can, the *popular* websites can ... but similar to Ham Radio of the mid 20th century it really can't be stopped as a communications network. There will always be a network of computers run by freedom fighters which any government just simply cannot regulate or control. Government's may be power hungry but they're not really tech savvy ... just look at Hillary and her bumbling e-mail thingie as a pertinent example !!! LOL

~ MM ~

31 posted on 10/07/2016 6:52:46 AM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (Deplorable American Citizen ... and damn PROUD of it !!!)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Ok,we’ve had extensive arguments lately on the fallout of the ICANN looting by Obama, So I asked JimRob for his opinion, given he’s an internet pioneer. See my tagline.


32 posted on 10/07/2016 7:01:14 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I am not sure how to reply to everyone.

The majority of people commenting in the news are taking the position that what is must always be and this includes Britt Hume in spades. He is a globalist in my opinion.

The truth is that the system of routing domain names was developed and given to a private company as a monopoly to make a boatload of money. That is the long and short of it.

What was made can be re-made and that scares the crap out of all of the people committed to the survival of ICANN (i.e. make money off it).

The airwaves are still there. The trunk lines are still there. The fiber cables are still there. The server farms are still there, many owned by companies acting as ISP's or providers like GoDaddy.

There is not one thing that prevents the American genius from devising and new name routing process that will be MORE secure and unstoppable by the oppressive regimes that want to limit 'free speech'.

I put that in quotes because everyone in the world that is not seeking to dominate others wants free speech, regardless of the geographic location or regime in charge of that place.

Free people of the world; stand on your back legs and do what is necessary to maintain this thing we call the 'Internet'.

For crying out loud, we went to the moon in 1962. Give me a break. In my 35 years as a computer contractor I was associated with brilliant minds that solved far harder puzzles than this one.

Stop waiting for permission. GET BUSY and stuff the naysayers and whiners about how we MUST do it the old way.

BE FREE

33 posted on 10/07/2016 9:05:30 AM PDT by GOPBiker (Thank a veteran, with a smile, every chance you get. You do more good than you can know.)
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To: GOPBiker

For real in-depth about a cyber-war with China, a number of people have been working on solutions and I reposted them here for brainstorming in the followup posts:

China’s Conquest of Internet, ICANN + Quantum Encryption
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3473008/posts


34 posted on 10/07/2016 9:24:17 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: rob Haiti relief, water down AIDS medicine. Steal furniture.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight; The Westerner

“On that note, the ‘Internet’ can’t really be stopped.”

Maybe not, but for a top notch internet connection you need satellites. No way around that yet:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3473008/posts


35 posted on 10/07/2016 9:30:39 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: rob Haiti relief, water down AIDS medicine. Steal furniture.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

36 posted on 10/07/2016 9:32:31 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. --Donald Trump (standing ovation)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Ok, to be continued. For now we can converse. China and Russia are moving their chess pieces on the board. If Hellation is elected, we’ll continue to downgrade our weapons of defense, thus lose the game. Then all our bases will belong to them,


37 posted on 10/09/2016 12:42:23 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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