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Navy may discipline sailor for pulling a Kaepernick
Washington Examiner ^ | 9/8/16 | Anna Giaritelli

Posted on 09/09/2016 6:10:26 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: Tucker39
Actually that was written by Key. The fourth stanza also talks about "freemen" white land owners.

Still, that was a product of the times and shared attitudes from around the world, not just the fledgling US.

A fifth stanza was writted by Oliver Wendell Holmes during the civl war, which effectively negated references to slavery and indentured servitude. In fact it talks about liberation and birthright citizenship:

When our land is illumined with Liberty's smile, If a foe from within strike a blow at her glory, Down, down with the traitor that dares to defile The flag of her stars and the page of her story! By the millions unchained who our birthright have gained, We will keep her bright blazon forever unstained! And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave While the land of the free is the home of the brave.

That prissy little squid s#!t should have studied the whole history, not just the black revisionist history of our national anthem.

PS My Irish ancestors have had her and her ancestors back from the civil war and on.

81 posted on 09/09/2016 10:39:37 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Drew68

If I was in command, I would kick her out so fast she might still be seated!
She is letting it be known that she is a nonconformist and chooses when to, or not to, behave in a military manner. Who needs the rotten apple in the barrel? Throw her out with a dishonorable discharge. Worth the court’s time.


82 posted on 09/09/2016 10:58:53 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: BatGuano

PS I wouldn’t want that jerk to be anywhere near my aircraft. She is poison. GO NAVY! Kick her out!


83 posted on 09/09/2016 11:03:31 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Drew68

Good point. Discharge her now, there’s a very good chance she will be more trouble then she’s worth for the entire time she is in the Navy.


84 posted on 09/09/2016 11:30:50 AM PDT by ops33
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I hope her fellow Navy men fill pillow cases with bars of soap and give her the Full Metal Jacket treatment.


85 posted on 09/09/2016 11:39:51 AM PDT by Maverick68 (p)
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To: pfflier

To my mind, living a few miles from Gettysburg, the American blood that was shed in the Civil War, washed the slate clean and began a new game. Then Jim Crow. But the Civil Rights laws corrected that. Now, anyone can be what they’re willing to work for.


86 posted on 09/09/2016 1:25:02 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Drew68

if a black janitor can simply destroy a piece of valuable art because it offended him, and get nothing done about it at all, why not raise your hand and disrespect the flag....


87 posted on 09/09/2016 1:28:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Drew68

“MAY now face administrative action”


There ain’t no GD may about it....I was in the sub force...Colors were respected EVERY single day. This gives a monstrous rash on my ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


88 posted on 09/09/2016 1:34:27 PM PDT by chasio649 (Donald Trump is not the president we need, he is the president SJWs deserve)
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To: Delta 21

“Snopes? Really??”

Yep. Is the information invalid?


89 posted on 09/09/2016 2:49:26 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

You can get your history from obfuscatory and inflammatory liberal writing if you choose.


90 posted on 09/09/2016 8:33:35 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

**Don’t NAVY recruits have to take a pledge of loyalty to America to be enlisted?**

My question too!


91 posted on 09/09/2016 8:36:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Delta 21

“You can get your history from obfuscatory and inflammatory liberal writing if you choose.”

Or you could simply point out an error if there is one. If you knew of one. Which you don’t. Right?


92 posted on 09/09/2016 10:33:04 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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I have no doubt the day will come where the Military will clean house under the leadership of a respectable CIC.


93 posted on 09/09/2016 10:36:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: vladimir998

Just because I do not respond as you expected me to, please dont make assumptions about what I know.


94 posted on 09/09/2016 10:50:11 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

“Just because I do not respond as you expected me to, please dont make assumptions about what I know.”

Feel free to point out errors in their presentation if you know of any.

Do you know of any?


95 posted on 09/09/2016 11:51:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Any discussion I have with anyone on the history of The Star Spangled Banner, especially on this conservative forum, will not include those that choose to get their talking points from Snopes.com

“Welcome to snopes.com, the definitive Internet reference source for urban legends, folklore, myths, rumors, and misinformation.”

I leave you to your history.

Good day.


96 posted on 09/10/2016 6:19:02 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

“Any discussion I have with anyone on the history of The Star Spangled Banner, especially on this conservative forum, will not include those that choose to get their talking points from Snopes.com”

I realize you’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I’ll say this as simply as I can. I posted a headline, subheadline, and a link from one snopes article. As a liberal might do, you have repeatedly insisted there was something wrong with the article I linked to without ever once being able to provide a single example of something in that article being any less than absolutely correct.

“I leave you to your history.”

Right. Because compared to you history is all mine because I do not simply dismiss information out of hand.

“Good day.”

You too. Here again is the information you run from repeatedly like chicken little:

“’The Star-Spangled Banner’ and Slavery
Is the legacy of black slavery enshrined in a lesser-known stanza of the U.S. national anthem, “The Star-Spangled Banner”? Some historians say yes.”

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/29/star-spangled-banner-and-slavery/

There very well could be errors in the article, but we both know you’re not going to be helping anyone finding them. And you probably don’t have the skill to do it anyway.


97 posted on 09/10/2016 6:34:58 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

I apologize that my racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, deplorable opinion of your web site choice has upset you.

I am without a doubt the most ignorant dull knife that has ever logged on to FreeRepublic.com and cant for the life of me understand why they still let me come here and interrupt smart people like you on a daily basis.

Your superior empathic abilities, being so much smarter than me, and skill at refuting my hyperbole has caused me to wonder why you even bother to engage me. I am now consumed with wonder at how I ever even found the ‘post’ button.


98 posted on 09/10/2016 7:04:39 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

“I apologize that my racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, deplorable opinion of your web site choice has upset you.”

You did no such thing. What you did was in fact much worse: You showed yourself to be intellectually incapable of dealing with evidence as evidence.

“I am without a doubt the most ignorant dull knife that has ever logged on to FreeRepublic.com”

No, there are others who are worse - but they’re just stupid.

“...and cant for the life of me understand why they still let me come here and interrupt smart people like you on a daily basis.”

You didn’t interrupt me from anything. I posted something that was in keeping with the topic of the thread. You vapidly posted your objection to that and you failed to prove any evidence that the article is flawed in any way.

“Your superior empathic abilities, being so much smarter than me, and skill at refuting my hyperbole has caused me to wonder why you even bother to engage me.”

I have no problem helping the incapable to be seen as what they are.

“I am now consumed with wonder at how I ever even found the ‘post’ button.”

Well, if Miss Baker can get to space you can hit the post button: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Baker

What you apparently can’t do is post evidence that shows there’s even a single flaw in the snopes article. That failure will most likely continue.


99 posted on 09/10/2016 7:33:35 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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