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EgyptAir Flight MS804: No Random Target
American Thinker ^ | May 23, 2016 | Mark Christian and Joe Herring

Posted on 05/23/2016 10:32:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

We are entering a new era – one in which terrorists place bombs in the sky and detonate them whenever they see fit. EgyptAir MS804 is just the latest example of their ability to transform an airliner into an IED.

Authorities almost immediately agreed that MS804 was likely the victim of a terrorist attack. However, they aren't able to discern how that took place, given the extensive passenger screening the flight underwent on each leg of its journey.

Ascertaining the method requires a look at the history of this particular flight and an honest appraisal of who stood to gain from the destruction of this plane and the brutal slaughter of its passengers and crew.

Since 9/11, airline security has been focused on passengers and their luggage. However, recent terror events such as the explosion of the Russian jetliner over the Sinai Peninsula in October make the case that our focus ought to turn to those who manage airport security and/or have access to aircraft while it is on the ground. Every plane coming out of an area of unrest and Islamist activity is a potential bomb in the skies.

This plane, which originated in Cairo as MS803, was set for a round-trip journey to Paris. The plane was on the ground in Cairo a full 24 hours before departing for Paris at 4:50 pm (Cairo time). It arrived in Paris at 9:40 pm (Paris time), and by 10:45 pm, it had taken off for the return leg of the journey.

While on the ground in Paris, there was little time for a thorough security check of the aircraft, but due to the short turnaround, there was equally little time to smuggle a bomb on board, especially in light of the increased security presence at Charles de Gaulle Airport.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Egypt; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a320; airbus; airbusa320; alexandria; crete; egypt; egyptair; egyptair804; europeanunion; flight804; france; greece; jihad; ms804; nato; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/23/2016 10:32:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Since 9/11, airline security has been focused on passengers and their luggage

Yep, time to focus on the pilots, whether it's depression or a practicing Muslim - both carry risks.

2 posted on 05/23/2016 10:35:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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excellent point.


3 posted on 05/23/2016 10:36:14 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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I still say that there is something fishy about the aircraft on this flight.

EgyptAir flight MS803 from Cairo to Paris, and the return flight MS804 from Paris to Cairo, used a Boeing 737-800 for every single flight except one. That one flight was the Egypt Air flight MS804 on May 18 that went down. An Airbus A320 was substituted for the regular Boeing 737.

Did someone plant a bomb on the A320, then "caused" some sort of malfunction that required the A320 to be substituted for the scheduled jet? Here is FlightAware's information for flight MS803, and you can see that all previous flights were with the B737, and two subsequent scheduled flights are with a B737, but the doomed flight used an A320.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MSR803

4 posted on 05/23/2016 10:47:47 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 1Old Pro

Would any of you board an American airliner after witnessing the pilots banging their heads on the floor in prayer?
If not, then why do we allow these barbarians to come live with us? Even occupy the WH?


5 posted on 05/23/2016 10:50:16 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
why do we allow these barbarians to come live with us?

Like Trump says, we'll "take a look at this and figure it out" before we allow them access.

6 posted on 05/23/2016 10:52:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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...time to focus on the pilots...

Do we know that the pilot deliberately killed himself and everyone else?

If he did, what can be done to prevent this in the future?

If not, I'd look to see who had access to the plane at its originating airport (Paris?). I hear some of the airports have security issues. Maintenance, baggage handlers, cleaning crews, fueling personnel, food service - all had direct contact with the aircraft before its last flight.

Passengers: was there anyone on board that someone needed to get rid of? How about a passenger who loaded his luggage, then missed the flight?

I do suspect this was a terrorist act, but not ready to blame the pilot yet.

7 posted on 05/23/2016 11:01:23 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: Yo-Yo

Why would they need an Airbus with only 66 people on board? (Passengers, flightcrew and 3 air marshals)


8 posted on 05/23/2016 11:01:47 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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hmmmm...considering the fact that all those weapons and missiles went missing in Libya, and the plane went down near Libya...
just another one of the many casualties of the failed Hilary/Obama foreign policy strategy!


9 posted on 05/23/2016 11:06:07 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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Not only the pilots had means and possible motive but all the baggage handlers worked for Egypt Air and most probably were jihadists. I am waiting for an airline to offer, for a fare premium, a Muslim free flight. It would be extremely profitable and would attract almost all business travelers.


10 posted on 05/23/2016 11:07:10 AM PDT by quantumman
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Passengers: was there anyone on board that someone needed to get rid of? How about a passenger who loaded his luggage, then missed the flight?

Do you mean a passenger who had his luggage loaded on the plane, or loaded his carry-on luggage and went of the plane again for some reason and missed the plane?

11 posted on 05/23/2016 11:07:27 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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Kaslin :" Why would they need an Airbus with only 66 people on board? (Passengers, flightcrew and 3 air marshals)"

Would the three air marshals be of nationality of whom the Islamics believe are "The Great Satan" ?

12 posted on 05/23/2016 11:12:19 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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"an honest appraisal of who stood to gain"

That should NEVER be used as an evidentiary standard.
13 posted on 05/23/2016 11:14:16 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Kaslin
Islam doesn't have a "violence" problem. That is merely an inevitable downstream consequence of the fundamental principle that animates Islam, that being a devotion to achieving theological and political supremacy over all the earth and its people, as commanded by Islam's prophet, Mohammed.
This teaching is a core element of Islam and renders it poisonous to humanity.

Nice to read an article on Islam where the author sees the problem, which is Islam itself, and following it the way Allah wants, and following the examples set by Muhammad.
Nothing radical or extreme about that.
It is Muslim fundamentalism in action. -Tom

14 posted on 05/23/2016 11:31:16 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Kaslin
I was thinking of the Lockerbie 747. IIRC, a passenger's luggage was loaded into the cargo compartment, but the passenger did not board. The plane left anyway and exploded over Scotland. It was theorized that a bomb was in the missing passenger's luggage.

Don't know how accurate this info is, whether that was the real cause of the disaster, or whether rules were changed because of it.

15 posted on 05/23/2016 11:35:53 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: 353FMG
Would any of you board an American airliner after witnessing the pilots banging their heads on the floor in prayer? If not, then why do we allow these barbarians to come live with us? Even occupy the WH?

Us Americans are primarily from a Christian background.

This is a forgive and forget. live and let live, be nice and understanding to others, walk a mile in someone else's shoes, pray for transgressors etc.

Those type of beliefs leave us wide open to deception, and excuse making for Islam, and even extends to blaming America first to avoid facing up to the fact Islam's mission is to subdue and crush anyone who is not a Muslim.

By the time us Kafirs awake to the threat of Islam,and take action against it, history shows it is too late in many cases.-Tom

16 posted on 05/23/2016 11:48:23 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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It would be safer and less of a hassle if people on flights couldn’t bring luggage. Perhaps one standard small carry on with a change of clothing. Put luggage on a separate plane.


17 posted on 05/23/2016 11:51:53 AM PDT by grania
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To: Yo-Yo
I still say that there is something fishy about the aircraft on this flight.

Five days have passed since the plane went down and yet, no one has claimed responsibility. I find that fishy.

18 posted on 05/23/2016 12:10:48 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Kaslin
Authorities almost immediately agreed that MS804 was likely the victim of a terrorist attack.

But now they're backing off because it looks like there could possibly have been some kind of fire.

This plane, which originated in Cairo as MS803, was set for a round-trip journey to Paris.

The plane was also in Tunisia, Belgium, and Eritrea in the couple of days before the crash.

19 posted on 05/23/2016 12:12:12 PM PDT by wideminded
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Actually the plane was in all these airports in the 24 hours before the crash:

Asmara (Eritrea)
Cairo
Tunis
Cairo
Paris

20 posted on 05/23/2016 12:19:53 PM PDT by wideminded
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