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Posted on 04/03/2016 7:26:04 PM PDT by irishMN

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To: Artcore

So, ignore the reality I was talking about and post your own version, is that it? Cruz is running rings around Trump in the behind the scenes action, and you know it.


41 posted on 04/03/2016 7:58:06 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: mak5
If he gets a majority, he’ll be the nominee. Whoever becomes the nominee will have a majority. However, it looks like Trump won’t have a majority when he gets to the convention.

I don't see why he won't have more delegates than Cruz. What are the projections? I believe last week Cruz need to win 80-85% to get to 1237. I haven't done the math but I'm thinking trump will end up with more delegates. We'll see.
42 posted on 04/03/2016 7:59:42 PM PDT by irishMN
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To: hapnHal
"Cruz is a liar and should be arrested."

DU is at another link, you sure you didn't post on the wrong forum?

43 posted on 04/03/2016 8:00:00 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Norseman

So, ignore the reality I was talking about and post your own version, is that it? Cruz is running rings around Trump in the behind the scenes action, and you know it.

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Then why is Cruz losing by almost 300 delegates?

I love the Cruzbot Common Core Logic! :-D


44 posted on 04/03/2016 8:01:47 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: hapnHal

Arrest Cruz? You’re not helping calm people’s worries that Trump would govern in an authoritarian, unconstitutional manner.


45 posted on 04/03/2016 8:02:02 PM PDT by JediJones (The younger presidential candidate has won the popular vote since '92. Vote younger. Vote Cruz. Win.)
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To: irishMN

Denying him the nomination if he gets a MAJORITY would require a historic, unprecedented rules change and I agree shouldn’t be done. But if we follow the traditional rules, and Trump only gets a PLURALITY of delegates, we will have a contested convention like we had in 1976.

Allowing a nominee to win with a mere plurality would require an unprecedented rules change itself and be a very dangerous thing. Next time you could have 18 candidates stay in until the end, and the guy with the plurality could be really low in votes and numbers and could be unpopular with a very large majority of the people.


46 posted on 04/03/2016 8:02:02 PM PDT by JediJones (The younger presidential candidate has won the popular vote since '92. Vote younger. Vote Cruz. Win.)
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To: irishMN

This is my message to Trump supporters. Ignore his contempt for Conservatism, his position on touchback amnesty, and his Constitutional ignorance at your own peril.


47 posted on 04/03/2016 8:03:13 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Norseman
You must really be living in dreamland if you think the GOPe will abandon Trump with at least 1100 delegates and award the nomination to Cruz, who in a best case scenario will have at best 750-800 delegates.

I agree that the GOP would rather not have Trump as their nominee but they doubly don't want Cruz as their nominee. So in your scenario, if they do desert Trump after the first vote, it won't be Cruz as beneficiary but somebody "acceptable" to them like a Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

I don't believe that will happen. Either Trump gets the 1237 needed on the first ballot or he is close enough where he will need to bargain for it (such as allow GOP right of refusal to his VP pick) but either way, Trump is on his way to the nomination. Either he wins it outright or he makes a few concessions.

48 posted on 04/03/2016 8:03:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (736); Cruz (463); Rubio (171); Kasich (143)
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To: SamAdams76

Premature how? That’s what’s happening, in state after state. Cruz is managing to put in place delegates that will switch from their bound vote for Trump on the first ballot, to him on the second and subsequent ballots.

Trump entered this thing on a lark, got 2 billion in free press, and simply hasn’t done his homework on the process. He’s great at promoting, but he’s just not the dealmaker he claims to be. His acolytes seem to think he’ll magically convert 1100 votes into a majority. We’ll see how that goes when he runs into the fact that Cruz has outplayed him on the delegate selection field. Some dealmaker.


49 posted on 04/03/2016 8:03:49 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: JediJones

All of that is agreeable, however if the second vote doesn’t go to the guy with the plurality, Hillary is President.


50 posted on 04/03/2016 8:04:19 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Norseman

How and why do you think Cruz will or should be the nominee ? ...lay it out for us ...


51 posted on 04/03/2016 8:04:58 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (It's now or never , Trump now more than ever ...If they defeat Trump, we are doomed)
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To: Norseman

You would not make a good card player. You are too anxious. You do not have the patience to wait for all the cards to be dealt before making your decisions. You would lose a lot of money!


52 posted on 04/03/2016 8:06:28 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (736); Cruz (463); Rubio (171); Kasich (143)
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To: irishMN

For capitalists this election isn’t about Trump, it’s about conservatives against the Red-Blue alliance that has sold the country down the river. Trump is a wild card, a hammer, not the basis of the fight.

This will either be a multi-election fight or the end of capitalism in America. Careerist politicians must be excised or the country is lost.

The nominee will be picked by the status quo PTB.

They must lose for the third time in row and probably more. It’s like chemo, the country will be cured of the cancer eventually or die.

The problem is, things looked better at Valley Forge.


53 posted on 04/03/2016 8:08:30 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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To: Norseman

Why are you supporting Cruz ?


54 posted on 04/03/2016 8:08:37 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (It's now or never , Trump now more than ever ...If they defeat Trump, we are doomed)
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To: irishMN

The political establishment still thinks that the old rules are in effect. They believe that they are a caste of high priests and that the lowly unwashed voters must kiss their feet. They are so self-important and self-involved that they are blind to how the internet has changed things.

Grassroots voters now have the ability to communicate with each other in real time. It’s creating a revolution in elections and politics. If the GOPe gives the middle finger to primary voters at the Convention there will be Hell to pay. And the GOP will survive only as a rump group of insiders, donors, hangers-on, and no one else.


55 posted on 04/03/2016 8:08:48 PM PDT by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: The Toll

You guys keep saying that, which is nuts because Trump is the only GOP candidate who consistently loses to Hillary in polling done so far. I realize you only respect polls that show your dear leader in a favorable light, but that’s reality.

Look, Hillary is the worst candidate the Dems have ever run, even worse, maybe, than Bernie if that’s even possible. She’s so beatable that every GOP candidate routinely outpolls her...except Trump.

But some conservatives prefer to join a circular firing squad instead of focusing on that.


56 posted on 04/03/2016 8:11:28 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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Folks, if Trump is not the nominee, it will be “politics as usual” like it has been for the last 25 years...The “establishment elites” get everything and the country continues on it’s slide to “third world banana republic” status...


57 posted on 04/03/2016 8:11:41 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: Norseman

Who operates these “polls”???
Who is scared to death of Trump???
There is one answer for BOTH questions....


58 posted on 04/03/2016 8:13:07 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: irishMN
I haven't done the math but I'm thinking trump will end up with more delegates. We'll see.

I think most people would agree that Trump will have more bound delegates going into the convention. But if he doesn't have 1237, he doesn't get the nomination unless he can persuade enough additional delegates to give him a majority.

59 posted on 04/03/2016 8:13:26 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: JediJones
Denying him the nomination if he gets a MAJORITY would require a historic, unprecedented rules change and I agree shouldn’t be done. But if we follow the traditional rules, and Trump only gets a PLURALITY of delegates, we will have a contested convention like we had in 1976.

You are correct. I did indeed intend to say plurality not majority. It may not be how many delegates want to vote but simply speaking if Trump gets a plurality and doesn't get the nomination the GOP is done.
60 posted on 04/03/2016 8:15:05 PM PDT by irishMN
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