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Libertarians for Donald Trump, Revisited
Lew Rockwell ^ | March 29, 2016 | Walter E. Block

Posted on 03/29/2016 4:37:25 AM PDT by VitacoreVision

I had this idea that we libertarians should support Donald Trump for the nomination of the Republican Party for president, not because he was a libertarian, nor, even, because his views were very congruent with our philosophy. My thought, though, was that out of all the Republican candidates, he was the most libertarian on foreign policy. He was the least likely to get us into World War III. And, thanks to the tutelage I had received over the years from the likes of Murray Rothbard, Ralph Raico and Bob Higgs, I knew that imperialism, foreign aggression, were more of a threat to liberty than were violations of economic or personal liberty rights.

I was brought to these thoughts by this excellent article:

Miller, Donald W, Jr. 2016. “Trump: Our Only Hope for Escaping World War III.” March 9

Because of this very important essay, I wrote one of my own in this vein:

Block, Walter E. 2016. “Libertarians for Trump.” March 15;

Whereupon I asked my then acquaintance, and now friend, Dr. Donald Miller if he would join with me in starting up a group to be called Libertarians for Trump (LFT). He quickly and enthusiastically agreed to do so.

There are several highlights of the beginnings of this organization:

First, in the words of my friend and mentor Ralph Raico (who writes to refute the notion that only the uneducated can support Mr. Trump, and who soon afterward joined me and Dr. Miller as the third founding member of LFT): “My friend Walter Block, who has a Columbia doctorate and is a college professor, has started a support group, Libertarians for Donald Trump. I’m a Chicago Ph.D. and retired college prof, and I’ve joined Walter’s cabal of the intellectually deficient. We are happy to join with legions of our fellow Americans who aren’t university educated but–isn’t it obvious?–are still capable of displaying common sense. Personally, my main reason for endorsing Trump and praying for his victory is his opponent. The Queen of Chaos would be the most dangerous person ever to fill the office of president. Quite aside from the colossal corruption of the Clinton crime family, I believe she would push Putin to a nuclear confrontation.”

And here is the second; Roger Stone on LFT:

Third, we have gathered a whole host of other blogs, essays, statements, from all sorts of people in support of Mr. Trump on our web page. But, don’t go there just yet. This is still a work in progress.

Initially, I had hoped that 100 people would sign up; then, I thought, I’d send their names to the Trump campaign, and be done with this effort of mine. But this initiative grew like topsy. It is now far greater than I ever imagined it would be. By my estimate, almost 400 people have already signed up for LFT and another dozen or so are trickling in every day. I’m too busy to count them since I’m still coping with dozens of sign up letters coming in pretty regularly. However, in future, if you want to sign up for LFT, please no longer use my own e-mail address; instead, access this one: thelibertariansfortrump@gmail.com

In order to get to this point, I went through, oh, perhaps 500 e-mail messages sent to me. This was quite an experience. The majority of opinion from the libertarian community was overwhelmingly positive. Many people articulated the view that they, too, had supported Trump, for reasons similar to mine, but were uncomfortable expressing this perspective, since they thought they would be drummed out of our precious libertarian movement. Trump, after all, is not an advocate of the freedom philosophy. They were delighted an organization was being started along these lines.

However, there were some objections.

One set claimed that voting was per se a violation of the libertarian principle of non-aggression. I tried to answer this objection in my initial publication in this vein regarding the overseer Goody and Baddy example. Evidently, it did not convince everyone.

Another set objected on the ground that Trump is not a pure libertarian. True, he is not as close to the freedom philosophy as is Senator Rand Paul, let alone his dad, Congressman Ron Paul. Here comes a joke: An economist was asked: “How is your wife.” Came the answer: “Compared to what?” Precisely. We are in a comparative “game” here. It is not sufficient to point out the many and serious deviations from pure libertarianism espoused by the Donald. They exist, to be sure. The issue is, is he worse on any of these than any of his Republican competitors, Cruz or Kasich (or maybe Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or Mitt Romney, in case any of them sneak back into contention)? When put in this manner, it is clear that Mr. Donald Trump is head and shoulders above them, at least on foreign policy. Get out of NATO? Bless you, Mr. Trump. No neo-con can come within a million miles of saying anything like that. Is Trump a protectionist? Unfortunately yes, but so are all the others. Does the Donald refuse to “take anything off the table, including nukes?” Yes, unhappily, but, again, the same applies to the others. You can go down the list of Donald Trump’s deviations from libertarianism, and you will find all of his competitors for the Republican nomination, also, in the same camp.

A third set was more challenging to me. The point made was, “What about Bernie Sanders? You say anti-imperialism, anti-war perspectives are all important. Ok, I agree. But why don’t you feel the Bern? Senator Sanders is pretty good on these issues too.” When I first heard of this objection, I confess, I was taken aback. But, on more measured reflection, let me say the following. I VASTLY prefer Bernie to Hillary; certainly on these grounds (I deny the claim that I am biased in his favor since we were friends for four years in high school; we were on the Madison High School track team together and overlapped for one year at Brooklyn College). Hillary is a war-monger par excellence, and Bernie is not. For me, the ideal run-off in November 2016 would be Bernie versus Donald. I judge them roughly equal in avoiding World War III, but would give the nod to my man Donald J. Trump since Bernie’s views on economics are nothing less than appalling; far worse than Donald’s. However, I confess, I find “Libertarians for Bernie” intriguing. Were Donald not in the race, I would choose Bernie over any of the other Republican contenders. This would sort of being like groups such as “Tenants against rent control” or “Unionists against the minimum wage law” or “Corporate capitalist businessmen against bailouts.” It would certainly garner attention. I have no real problem in supporting Bernie against any neo-con warmonger, of any of the main two parties. Hey, I supported Barack Obama against John McCain in 2008; I feared the latter would drop a nuclear bomb on someone. Similarly, I was in favor of our Nobel Peace Prize President :) in 2012, vis a vis Mitt Romney, who was trying to pick a fight with China, of all places.

What about the Presidential race in the fall, when there will be a Libertarian Party candidate in contention? My colleagues and I at LFT have decided that the sole purpose of this organization is to help Mr. Donald Trump attain the Republican Party’s nomination for president. When and if that occurs, we plan to disband LFT. We confine ourselves toward working toward the day when Mr. Trump receives the nomination of the Republican Party for president — and nothing else.

One final issue. Several people who joined LFT offered to help us with all sorts of things: running the website, blogging, twitter, general publicity and other such efforts of LFT. No, I misspoke. Dozens of our members have done so.

I ask that if you are interested in helping us with a myriad of such tasks, you get in touch with Martin Moulton, who is, in effect, our chief operating officer who is based in Washington, DC. Send emails to: thelibertariansfortrump@gmail.com — with “VOLUNTEER” and “your last name” in the subject line. We have decided not to raise any money for our efforts even though several of our members have offered to help with such an initiative.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; libertarian

1 posted on 03/29/2016 4:37:25 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

“Hey, I supported Barack Obama against John McCain in 2008...”

Okee dokee Pinocchi.


2 posted on 03/29/2016 4:45:33 AM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

Republicans can admit now that they hated John McCain.

The GOP made a huge mistake nominating him.


3 posted on 03/29/2016 4:53:14 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision
Were Donald not in the race, I would choose Bernie over any of the other Republican contenders.

Sounds like a principled chap.

4 posted on 03/29/2016 5:11:59 AM PDT by the808bass ( I am the rodeo clown for your pain.)
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To: VitacoreVision
No culture can be considered less interventionist than the monastic culture of the Middle Ages. Certainly the monks of Lindisfarne on the East Coast of England had no idea in 793 that they were about to be devastated by a new technology: the Viking Longboat. With these revolutionary shallow draft boats the Vikings were able to cross perilous seas, navigate up rivers and descend on unsuspecting monasteries to sack and pillage.

In 1945 the Japanese thought they might still win the war through sacrifice of their population by ten of their own to every American soldier who might invade. They were undone by a new technology, the atomic bomb.

All the suppositions, all the realities, all of the assumptions were instantly obliterated in a single blast. Today the world is confronted with the possibility not just of atomic attack but of hydrogen attack delivered by ICBM missiles from the other side of the world or from under the sea. Nearly as frightening, biological weapons could wipe out entire civilizations.

The Vikings, the Japanese, and, more recently, Islamicists were not amenable to negotiation or reason, they waged war according to their own lights. The isolation of the monks did not protect them, the insularity of the Japanese availed them nothing, appeasement of militant Islam is sure to fail. Isolationism simply does not work especially when a new technology or a new ideology transforms everything.

To support Donald Trump because he voices some libertarian views is to substitute wishful thinking for clear thinking. The odds are that Donald Trump could not even define libertarianism; his conception of foreign policy is inconsistent, incoherent, and ignorant.


5 posted on 03/29/2016 5:36:50 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: the808bass

Maybe he just sees the similarities. Both candidates spend their days spouting rhetoric and promises that are full of hot air, and both have hoards of true-believing but gullible sycophants.


6 posted on 03/29/2016 6:27:35 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: VitacoreVision

On twitter I’ve noticed a lot of Libertarians beginning to defend Trump... over the last six weeks. Many are saying they are not planning to vote for him, but they take to twitter to lambaste the left. Justin Raimondo from antiwar is one of them... it started to shift once Trump began speaking out against the Bush wars and his critique of NATO sealed the deal.

Trump has a lot of unlikely support... I’ve mentioned before, that every single cab driver anyone in my family has used since January without being prompted has used Trump lines... we’ve counted 30 so far, and this is in blue Maryland, NYC and DC. All the cab drivers have been foreign born people of color, and one black American woman. Yesterday an Ethiopian cabbie stated that all the Ethiopians he knows are supporting Trump... Make America Great again blah blah blah. Cab drivers are the first people to feel the brunt of a crumbling economy, and in a sense even if they’re working for a company... they’re small business owners who rely on customers who have enough money to decide to use the convenience of a cab.


7 posted on 03/29/2016 6:32:44 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: nathanbedford
To support Donald Trump because he voices some libertarian views is to substitute wishful thinking for clear thinking. The odds are that Donald Trump could not even define libertarianism; his conception of foreign policy is inconsistent, incoherent, and ignorant.

John McCain was and is partnered with Obama in supporting ISIS financially and militarily...Trump will pick qualified advisors and none of them will be McCain, or Obama...

You think little George Bush knew anything about foreign policy or war??? Or Romney??? And what does Cruz know except what he's learned from military briefings???

8 posted on 03/29/2016 6:49:01 AM PDT by Iscool (Trump will Triumph)
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To: Iscool
The thesis of the article was that libertarians should support Donald Trump because he expresses libertarian ideology. I attacked both the ideology and Donald Trump's misapprehension of that ideology.

You defend Donald Trump by resorting to relativism: other presidents are as bad or worse.

I don't know how you can get worse than a man who lies about his opposition to the Iraq war, claims that he can provide twenty-five articles proving his opposition prior to that war, fails to do so, and the only public utterance prior to the war that we know of makes Donald Trump a liar. To top it off he indulges in projection, accusing George Bush of the lies on the very subject that Donald Trump himself has committed.

Not only is Donald Trump's foreign policy inconsistent, incoherent, and ignorant but he is an opportunistic liar.


9 posted on 03/29/2016 7:57:33 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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