Skip to comments.Death of America: Why This Presidential Election isn’t as Important as People Think
Posted on 03/19/2016 2:17:06 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
Many people lament that Obama has destroyed America these last eight years or, alluding to same, will say I dont recognize my country anymore. This is much like viewing a woman who marries a greasy-haired, dope-smoking, heavily tattooed and pierced, unemployable reprobate and saying that her matrimonial decision destroyed her, when the real problem was that she was the kind of person who could make such a choice in the first place. Do you really think Obama isnt a symptom at least as much as a cause? Do you think the 2008 A.D. America that elected him would have been recognizable to 1950 Americans?
And even if the next president is an anomalous good result, he wont even be a pause that refreshes, but will at best slow down the runaway train racing toward the precipice. This is because our main problems arent illegal migration, trade deals or health care, as significant as those things are. Our problems are more fundamental.
Do you really want to save America? Okay, then completely transform the media, academia and entertainment so theyre not brainwashing citizens 24/7 with anti-American, anti-Christian, multiculturalist, socialist, feminist and a multitude of other lies. End legal immigration, which, via the importation of massive numbers of Third Worlders, is changing our country into a socialistic non-Western culture. Even more significantly, convince the 70-plus percent of Americans who are moral relativists to believe in Truth; these are people who, as the Barna Group research company put it, believe that what we call truth is always relative to the person and their situation and whose most common basis for moral decision-making is doing whatever feels right
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Why does this matter? Well, if we saw a child who didnt obey rules and simply made up his own rules changing them as was convenient would we say that he was governed by anything worthy of being called rules (principles)? Or would we conclude that the word had simply become a euphemism for flights of fancy and feelings-based decisions? Alright now, is it any different when an adult does it? Furthermore:
Is it any different when large groups of adults do it even country-size groups?
We can put as much lipstick on this pig of preference-oriented decision-making as we want, but it amounts to this striking reality: we are a people that, to a great extent, now operates by the credo If it feels good, do it. .
Many of us now believe, in essence, there are no rules governing man.
And we often behave that way.
Oh, we know there are things called laws, regulations, social codes and values, but too many of us dont believe they could have a basis in anything objective (Gods law), anything beyond our own collective desires. I know of a seemingly sociopathic man who once said to someone close to me, Murders not wrong; its just that society says it is. How could the relativistic majority among us answer him? Well, yeah, I guess. But most of us really, really, really dont like it?
To understand the effects of this no-rules mentality, a little analogy is instructive. Imagine that baseball players came to believe there were no rules governing the sport, that it was whatever works for you. A pitcher might decide there should be only one strike, while a batter might reckon there should be five. A first baseman might insist that the hitter shouldnt be able to run past first base, while the hitter might say he should be able to run past all of them. And things would continue degenerating, with everyone writing his own ticket and battling over standards, until, perhaps, players began tackling one another and sometimes wielding the bats as weapons. Games cant work without agreed-upon rules.
Civilizations cant work without them, either. And there wont be agreement when people believe everything is relative. This is our lot, and we see the effects all around us.
Far from Middle Age Europe, where, as G.K. Chesterton put it, everyone agreed on what really mattered, today we agree on nothing that matters. Were not just balkanized racially and ethnically, but ideologically, philosophically and spiritually. There are conservatives, liberals, libertarians, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, existentialists, Wiccans, atheists, just to name a handful, and a multitude of variations within most of the categories; reflecting this disagreement on First Things, other things are equally fractured. There are nationalists and internationalists, feminists and male-rights activists, multiculturalists and cultural defenders, patriots and perfidious scoundrels, activists and the apathetic, Marxists and free-market defenders, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum.
Heck, many of us dont even know what marriage or sexual propriety is anymore, the difference between a tissue mass and a baby, or even what boys and girls are, as we dial back our maturity level to the infantile stage during which a child cant distinguish between male and female.
With our agreeing on almost nothing, its not surprising most everything ends up in court, as we enrich lawyers and empower judges to become the Ultimate Arbiters of All Things. Meanwhile, not-so-huddled masses, Muslim jihadists and perhaps weapons of mass destruction pour across a border thats still not porous enough for the miles-wide fifth column in our midst. And the same people tell us voter-ID is oppressive, as our government prints official documents in dozens of languages and we press one for English and hope the customer service representative we get to help us with our crummy Chinese-made product will have a decipherable accent.
Speaking of which, why is China often called the worlds oldest civilization? It has seen governments come and go, endured tyranny, disease and starvation, but certain things have remained: the Chinese people, language and culture. China truly is a nation, meaning, an extension of the tribe, which itself is an extension of the family (hence, theres no such thing as a nation of immigrants unless theyre all from the same country). Were now the opposite, a federation of competing sub-cultures some imported, some domestically made not all of which are trying to coexist within the same borders. Many of us simply hate each others guts.
Given that all civilizations rise and fall, being able to determine when yours is close to its terminus may be helpful. Imagine you knew a man who was drinking, taking drugs and indulging sexual misbehavior more and more over time. It was increasingly difficult for him to retain employment, act responsibly, pay his bills and get along with others, as his devolving mindset led to accidents and violent outbursts. Youd recognize that his life was spinning out of control and wouldnt be surprised to later hear he was in prison or dead. Such is the last stop on the road of inexorable moral decay. Now, would your expectations be any different if it were a group of people exhibiting such self-destructive behavior?
Okay, what about an even larger group lets say, a country?
Of course, not all of us are that nigh-to-the-grave reprobate. But Americas collective face does increasingly resemble him.
We can also hark back to the baseball analogy. With people tending to make up their own rules, our game is breaking down. Why do you think we have candidates who scoff at enforcing immigration law and a president and judges who wipe their paws and claws on the Constitution? In a land where all is relative, laws are relative to the men; then you become a nation of men, not laws.
This is why none of our solutions will solve anything. We can talk about Ted Cruz and constitutionalism. But was John Adams a fool when warning in 1798, Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other? We are now the other.
We can echo Donald Trump echoing Ronald Reagan and say Make America great again! But as an apocryphal quotation oft repeated by Reagan goes, America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.
She married the reprobate or she IS that reprobate? Look around you
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Who woulda thunk it?
That, or there really is a bunch of vote fraud.
The HELL itt’s not!
We can’t by main force change the media either. The question of the character of the one who chooses keeps on transferring itself. We could ask who we are to listen to that kind of trashy media.
Ultimately the problem is individual people’s choices before God. There are two kingdoms, God’s and the devil’s, and we can claim one or the other.
Here’s where the bible asks the question of how shall they hear without a preacher. We don’t need a president to preach gospel to us. That is not in his mission. We need clergy and lay evangelists, and they have to keep their mission clear. They can’t be complaining that the president is not preaching gospel. They can’t be trying to get the president to preach gospel for them. And they need to be walking the gospel, not just talking the gospel. I’ve seen folks who weren’t even Christian (at least nominally; maybe God has destined them to become such) who walked a better gospel than our holier-than-thou rollers.
The heaven it’s not, even though it looks like it’s probably going to be Trump.
The problem is the guardian at the gate fell asleep and the cesspool overflowed and took over 56 years ago
So, you don’t think this is one of the most, if not the most, important election in our lifetime? Or, am I misreading your post?
Here’s where salvation stories sometimes appear. God grabs hold of someone’s life and yanks hard... and we see a 180 degree turn.
No I don’t.
I think the most important election in all eternity is the one we make towards the campaigns of God and Satan.
And the government can NOT do it for us.
America has been like a man dying in the hospital. This last administration is like a malicious doctor injecting something into his IV to speed up the process.
No one man can make America good again. Its foolish to believe one can.
Only a great tribulation can do that. And that only by God's will.
Umm, yeah...ok. Good for you.
A tribulation can’t do squat of itself.
A great Savior is needed.
Get a landslide vote for Him and suddenly our picture will brighten. Tribulation may FOLLOW... but that’s not the cause. That’s the effect.
Obama is not a symptom or cause. The demorats completely sold out to the socialist under clinton. The whole party moved completely left. The publicans sold out also to the new world order and tried to win with romney which caused millions not to vote. Obama never made anything it was all spoon fed by the globalists.
Good for God.
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