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The Source of Beethoven's Musical Genius: His Greater Dignity as a Man
Free Republic ^ | 3/18/2016 | Pocono Pundit

Posted on 03/18/2016 9:01:47 AM PDT by poconopundit

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1 posted on 03/18/2016 9:01:47 AM PDT by poconopundit
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To: HarleyLady27; smoothsailing; Albion Wilde; DoughtyOne; V K Lee; Jane Long; Yaelle; nopardons; ...
FRiends, something a bit different and for your amusement on a Friday afternoon.  Hope you like it.
2 posted on 03/18/2016 9:03:22 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: poconopundit

A bit of the old Donald J. to start the day.


3 posted on 03/18/2016 9:05:56 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: poconopundit

Schnapps?


4 posted on 03/18/2016 9:10:34 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: poconopundit

The score pictured above is the opening of Beethoven’s 5th symphony.


5 posted on 03/18/2016 9:11:03 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: SC DOC

Indeed. I noticed that too! It should have been the familiar strains of “Ode To Joy” to accompany the article, rather than the also majestic opening strain of the 5th Symphony.


6 posted on 03/18/2016 9:17:33 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: poconopundit
A magnificent post in every way!

Thanks so much. You inspired me to surf to some great music which is soothing my ears after listening to all the non-stop Trump-bashing on the cables.

Leni

7 posted on 03/18/2016 9:26:53 AM PDT by MinuteGal (GO, TRUMP, GO !!!)
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To: poconopundit

Beethoven was no doubt a great composer but dignity? Certainly at times he was dignified and certainly was that way about his music but he probably died from syphilis and hepatitis both probably contracted sexually. The syphilis probably caused his hearing loss. He drank to excess and was generally a royal pain to be around. Basically the aging rock star of his day.


8 posted on 03/18/2016 9:38:14 AM PDT by rey
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To: poconopundit

You’ll also notice many parallels in Beethoven’s character to another Olympian artist in the fields of business and politics.

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Many parallels?

Irritability. Irascibility. Bipolar disorder.

“Beethoven’s personal life was troubled by his encroaching deafness and irritability brought on by chronic abdominal pain (beginning in his twenties) which led him to contemplate suicide (documented in his Heiligenstadt Testament). Beethoven was often irascible. It has been suggested he had bipolar disorder.”

Yes, the above is pulled from wikipedia. But all of that info above is footnoted to legit sources.

Somehow I doubt that’s what you had in mind when comparing the character of these 2 folks.

Let’s see if Trump’s name is still remembered as fondly as is Beethoven’s 200 years after his death.


9 posted on 03/18/2016 9:41:43 AM PDT by dmz
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I think the pre-electronics, pre-recording, pre-broadcasting composers had the isolation necessary for concentration and creativity.

Back in those days if you wanted to hear music you had to go where people played it. Isn’t it interesting that to this day none of the orchestral instruments need to be plugged in.

It amazes me that the piano, with 88 identical hammer-driving mechanisms, was invented and manufactured way back then. The action is the same today as it was a hundred years ago (I think). The grand has a more complex action than uprights. These actions, when in good condition, work perfectly and silently and are nothing but wood, felt and a little metal.


10 posted on 03/18/2016 10:12:16 AM PDT by cymbeline
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It still amazes me that I can listen to Beethoven anytime, anywhere, at the push of a button. I often wish he could come back and hear himself on modern equipment.


11 posted on 03/18/2016 10:21:16 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: SC DOC

Interesting. I would have never known :-)


12 posted on 03/18/2016 10:26:49 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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Great.  Thank you.  For people like you I am writing this stuff:- )  Have a great weekend.
13 posted on 03/18/2016 10:28:26 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: cymbeline
What you say is true.  Our modern age has not really improved on the acoustic piano.

My daughter took lessons and could play some beautiful pieces, but now that she's gone we sold our piano and it was sad to see it go.

I think you can isolate yourself successfully today, but it takes a little more effort.  I don't own a personal cell phone because I find it a distraction.  But nevertheless, I am addicted to FR :- )


14 posted on 03/18/2016 10:40:18 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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Beethoven is my favorite composer. His music expresses what I feel.


15 posted on 03/18/2016 10:44:51 AM PDT by karnage
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To: poconopundit

Music Bump.


16 posted on 03/18/2016 10:48:56 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rey
You make a good point.  I looked up the word dignity and found one definition here:
    the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect.
    "a man of dignity and unbending principle"

Mencken admitted that Beethoven the person was in many ways undignified.  But when it came to music, Beethoven was able to tap into a certain power or genius that other men could not.

And I thoroughly agree that many rock stars are not dignified either.

Even still, the quality of the best rock music and Beethoven can be respected regardless of the man or woman behind it.

Perhaps Mencken should have said "a man of genius" instead of a "man of dignity".

What do you think?


17 posted on 03/18/2016 10:58:36 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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” I don’t own a personal cell phone because I find it a distraction. But nevertheless, I am addicted to FR”

My wife and I have one cell phone that neither of us regularly carries.

I’ll admit that I might be called addicted to FR. I love it in part because it comes up so quickly and has worthwhile content. We all need to contribute to it. I do, but probably not “my fair share”.


18 posted on 03/18/2016 11:32:45 AM PDT by cymbeline
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“It still amazes me that I can listen to Beethoven anytime, anywhere, at the push of a button”

The cell phone, the internet, the GPS, and throw in cheap powerful audio amplifiers, have given us a new world.

I remember when a 30 watt hi-fi amp was pretty powerful.


19 posted on 03/18/2016 11:35:04 AM PDT by cymbeline
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bump for later


20 posted on 03/18/2016 12:26:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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