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Sorry, Republicans, Ted Cruz is Lying About Abolishing the IRS
The Daily Banter ^ | 3/4/2016 | BOB CESCA

Posted on 03/04/2016 3:21:31 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

It's America's favorite pander. Pledging to abolish the Internal Revenue Service is only slightly less attractive than promising unlimited, consequence-free sex with the partners of our choice. Nobody likes the IRS, and eliminating it entirely will surely resolve many, many sleepless nights for too many Americans, especially at this time of year.

So, it's no wonder why Ted Cruz is promising to abolish the IRS. It's such a crucial aspect of his platform that he mentioned it twice during his Super Tuesday victory speech in Texas because, for middle-aged Republican voters, it's way better fapping material than naked pics of Sarah Palin. And Ted Cruz, with his skeevy face and Glengarry salesman mendacity, has no choice but to roll out the big guns in order to compensate for his unprecedented repulsiveness -- booger mishap and all.

Too bad it's a pipe dream.

During various Cruz stump speeches and television spots, the loathsome senator with his punch-me face can be heard to pledge three things related to taxes:

1) A 10 percent flat-tax. 2) Tax returns filed on postcard-sized forms. 3) No more IRS.

The question that ought to immediately spring to mind for anyone paying attention is this: Where the hell do we send our postcard-sized tax returns if the IRS doesn't exist any more? I've asked this question repeatedly on the Bob & Chez Show as well as throughout social media, and not a single Cruz supporter has bothered to answer.

Consequently, I did some digging myself and discovered the truth.

Ted Cruz absolutely doesn't plan to abolish the IRS after all. Instead, Cruz intends to shrink the size of the agency. How do we know this? Cruz's campaign website...

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybanter.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Hard to read that article without cringing with disgust, but there it is spelled our as we see it that even one of the 10 year olds in here can understand. Thanks.


101 posted on 03/04/2016 5:22:25 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Lauren BaRecall
They need to be reported as Abuse every time we see it mentioned or displayed.

It is us to us to see that it is done, probably won't make any difference as it seems only anti Trump things are pulled or banned.

102 posted on 03/04/2016 5:25:50 PM PST by annieokie
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To: bobby.223

probably in some cubical in Nigeria.


103 posted on 03/04/2016 5:26:38 PM PST by annieokie
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To: rineaux
We are not there but certainly heading towards it if we don't do something drastic.

Going messiah-happy over a spoiled, egotistical juvenile whose life-work has accomplished basically nothing but his own shameless self-promotion isn't "something drastic." It's just the same-old same-old we did in 2008 and 2012.

104 posted on 03/04/2016 5:35:14 PM PST by FredZarguna (Billy was a simple country boy. You might say a cockeyed optimist...)
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To: annieokie; bobby.223
probably in some cubical in Nigeria.

Good one.

I had always assumed BFAC was a captain in the American Army.

But given tRump's penchant for hiring foreigners to do menial labor, BFAC is probably some dime-a-dozen "captain" in the Liberian Army, trolling for nickels.

105 posted on 03/04/2016 5:38:22 PM PST by FredZarguna (Billy was a simple country boy. You might say a cockeyed optimist...)
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To: FredZarguna
Trump is not the same old same old son. Cruz and Rubio are.

Money envoy? Love it.

106 posted on 03/04/2016 5:45:12 PM PST by rineaux (My apology to those that have seen it a thousand times. It's just funny to me.)
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To: FredZarguna

Liberian Army, lol......yes, I have seen much glory and praise for her service heaped on her/him in here in the past, just gossip.


107 posted on 03/04/2016 5:46:25 PM PST by annieokie
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
SMH

Shaking your head at what, how ridiculous and hyperbolic the attacks against Cruz have become?

108 posted on 03/04/2016 5:49:00 PM PST by Washi (Don't blame me. I voted for the conservative.)
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To: blueplum
Individual taxes can only be reduced to a postcard if there are no life events - buying/selling a home; investments; etc.

And much worse than that is the 16% "corporate" tax which will apply to any self employment. The supposedly low flat tax is only 10% for wages from employment. If you are self employed that number becomes 16% of your gross sales plus 10% of your net income.

Cruz's plan raises taxes on many small businesses and sole proprietors, while probably leaving the rich paying only 10%.

109 posted on 03/04/2016 5:53:12 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; All

Thank you for referencing that article BlackFemaleArmyCaptain. As usual, please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Regarding Cruz abolishing the IRS, no, regardless what the corrupt Washington cartel wants everybody to think about the president being able to act unilaterally from Congress, the president has no constitutional authority to do anything independently of Congress, abolishing the IRS in this example.

Noting that the POTUS only has the constitutional authority to sign a bill from Congress that would abolish the IRS, Cruz will not be able to abolish the IRS without the support of corrupt Congress.

H O W E V E R …

I don’t know what Cruz was indoctrinated with in Harvard Law School, but his professors evidently did not teach the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.

More specifically, the major constitutional problem with all federal regulatory agencies outside the legislative branch is this imo. The Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide these clauses from Congress, to clarifiy that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in the non-elected federal bureaucrats running so-called federal regulatory agencies like EPA and IRS.

In other words, Congress has a constitutional “monopoly” on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not. But by delegating legislative / regulary powers to non-elected federal officials outside the legislative branch, the IRS in this example, Congress is wrongly protecting such powers from the wrath of the voters in blatant defiance of the Sections 1-3 mentioned above imo.

In fact, it can be argued that corrupt Congress is deliberately allowing non-legislative federal officials, including last-term Obama, steal legislative branch powers so that people outside the legislative branch can do Congress’s dirty legislative work for it. By letting non-legislative branch officials make regulations that are very unpopular with the voters, corrupt lawmakers can keep their voting records clean in order to fool low-information patriots into reelecting them.

Remember in November !

If patriots want to abolish the IRS then they need to do the following. When patriots elect Trump, Cruz, or whatever conservative they elect, they need to also elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the new president, but also protect the states from unconstitutional federal government overreach, including abolishing the unconstitutional IRS.

Also, consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.


110 posted on 03/04/2016 5:57:51 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Abby4116
Whenever the flat tax is mentioned the employer/business tax is NOT mentioned, even though it will probably increase the cost of goods.

It will increase the cost of goods in some circumstances, but more importantly it will burden small business start ups and individual entrepreneurs. Imagine starting a small business - you'll have to pay the 16% tax on gross sales even if your business is losing money. For self employed individuals the tax rate is 26% not 10%. And in order to collect that tax the government will have to establish an extensive and intrusive tax collection process that tracks sales and gross receipts for every transaction.

Sen. Cruz may shut down the IRS but he'll have to replace it with an even more intrusive organization. Maybe he can call it the SS, or the KGB, or STASI.

111 posted on 03/04/2016 5:59:34 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The last time anyone tried to mess with the Treas. or Fed., he and a lot of people ended up dead.


112 posted on 03/04/2016 6:02:55 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Cruz admitted it at the debate last night. It will be a kinder gentler IRS. :-)


113 posted on 03/04/2016 6:17:17 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: John Valentine

Its a booger Jim. :-)


114 posted on 03/04/2016 6:20:11 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: jneesy
simple question....do you know me how would you know if i have no class you assume it because like the rest of booger eaters supporters around here you look down your nose at the rest of us you and those like you are why we havent won squat since reagan....have a nice day you enlightened soul you

We know you here through your posts. And childish attacks/word choice, on top of your inability to properly punctuate/capitalize your run-on sentences definitely aren't hallmarks of someone with any class.
115 posted on 03/04/2016 6:23:29 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Will88

No one will abolish the IRS.

Using the tax code to reward/punish is basic to government. The best we can hope for is removing the outrageous politicalization that the white hut practices.


116 posted on 03/04/2016 6:27:49 PM PST by Let's Roll (So much left-wing thought is playing with fire by those who don't even know fire is hot - Orwell)
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To: Ms Mable; rineaux

You have both just been demoted from third grade to second grade.


117 posted on 03/04/2016 7:36:36 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: John Valentine
"I think the bias is showing. "

No, the emotional and intellectual immaturity of the Trumpeter mindset are on full display on FR.

118 posted on 03/04/2016 7:39:50 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
So funny.  photo CcrFamVUMAAtBQN.jpg
119 posted on 03/04/2016 8:01:11 PM PST by rineaux (My apology to those that have seen it a thousand times. It's just funny to me.)
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To: bigbob

Wow. Really???


120 posted on 03/04/2016 8:31:44 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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