Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121
I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.
Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.†I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.
It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?
Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?
And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.
The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.
Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.
Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans†first. Now, I’m not so sure.
Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?
This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.
Those Iowans, that “usually get out and voteâ€, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.†I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.
All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.
I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.
I think there are many many people from all walks of life who have interacted with Donald Trump. It’s funny, that for a man who has had this many years in the limelight, there are very few adverse stories out there, and they’re related to his businesses.
What strikes me, and probably everyone else, is that he’s been there, done it. Compared to the others on the stage at the previous 6 debates, it was like he was in a room with children.
Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Jeb even Cruz leading our military? Please....
So you agree people like Judge Janeen are probably embarrassed by this whole thing.
I would think probably more than one person @ Fox tipped him off about what was about to go down at the debate...
Love the split scene.
No dinner menus, I love them but dinner needs its own thread please!
You are so right, it’s odd but I guess we all needed to hear someone else than Fox talk for a change.
BTW all - turn on CNN - its only 5pm in Iowa and the lines to get in to Trump’s event are LOOOONG
Rinse P on cnn saying it’s not a competition between events. Wish everyone would compete in debate but candidates had to decide. Careful not to attack Trump. He’s not getting in middle of dispute. He actually handled this well. Split screen still on line for Trump.
We’ve had dinner menus since we started these threads. It part if the wait time. Is you don’t like it don’t some back till debate or rally time.
We also share cideoa. Recipes. Jokes etc. This is a sharing community
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa
This isn’t working for you?
I had my doubts about Trumps decision, but now I see he was correct. The “debate†was an ambush!
Awgie (Truth is Stranger than Fiction)
My bet would be Greta.
Wolf Blitzer was interviewing Reince Preibus, the mealy mouthed RNC Boy Blunder.
Split acreen showed YUUUUUGE lines forming to get into the Trump event.
You think? I slept on the plane.
I just arrived to my hotel in Columbia, Maryland (The Marriott). I’m in the business lounge.
You ready for this. They’ve got this beautiful 80+ TV in the lobby, and there’s this line... I mean a humungous line in the cold for TRUMP’S EVENT!! Excuse me... it’s like 5:15pm there? I thought this doesn’t start until 7?
And they show a clip of Trump with BOR last night. Am I seeing things, or was it like non stop BOR talking? Man, Trump looks good on a big expensive TV. Remember how great REagan looked and dressed?
Any news about Huck and Santorum et al joining him? I hope they do. Carli also... NOw that would be the coolest!!!!!
Waiting for a couple docs to pick me up for dinner in about an hour...will be checking things from my iphone.... lol
Over $250,000 raised and the even has not been held yet.
Dana Bash on CNN laughing that lines may stretch all way to debate site. Lol. The panel thinks Rubio is gonna go after Cruz. Now laughing about BOR begging Trump. Ana Navarro bush and Rubio girl says its Trump world Dana Bash saying BOR and Lightweight Journalist Megyn Kelly not good friends. Fox in a pickle they created.
Glad you’re getting settled in before the event. C Span is carrying it. You may be able to get it in your room
When did Beckel say that BTW?
Sorry... But this morning I got up to read end of night posts and it was all food... Dinner while we wait, no issue but it went well past dinner last night and I wanted to read our fellow FReeper thoughts on Trump. Don’t beat me up, I like dinner while we wait, but once the night begins, I’m done with dinner talk. PS, I am in the weekly garden thread, I love the recipes... I get it, but not tonight after the evening takes off :). Just my thoughts, I doubt I am alone but I could be...that’s ok too!
Call in interview this afternoon on CNN.
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