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Oregon protest leader Ammon Bundy, others arrested; 1 killed
CNN ^ | 01/26/2016 | Dana Ford & Holly Yan

Posted on 01/26/2016 7:31:55 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan

CNN)One person was killed as authorities arrested a group of people -- including Ammon Bundy -- involved with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, the FBI and Oregon State Police said.

The deceased individual, who has not been identified, was the subject of a federal probable cause arrest, officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: ambush; ammonbundy; arkansas; bundy; fbi; hammondranch; hitlery; newyork; oregon; sedition; terrorist; welfarecowboy; wot
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To: Nextrush

To correct mistake from my previous post, Santilli, who was visible on camera smoking something with a device and cussing moved from a hospital to the Burns Municipal Airport to confront the FBI there asking for permission to go in and get the people out who are still at the refuge including women and children.

At that point he was arrested by the feds.

101 posted on 01/26/2016 9:10:16 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Ray76
Interesting video, but it basically tells us that these FBI guys were not very good at being undercover. Embarrassing, really.

In other news it looks like Jon Ritzheimer turned himself in separately.

That's pretty much all of the guys at Malheur who like being on camera.

102 posted on 01/26/2016 9:11:47 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Dick Vomer
I don't if they are or not, but the way they react to this incident will tell a lot about them. Ever since the Bundy ranch stand off I'm much more skeptical of the group than I use to be. Their leadership have made some decisions that have turned off a lot of their members. If they make excuses not to back up their previous statements about this situation the group will become irrelevant.
103 posted on 01/26/2016 9:12:03 PM PST by LeeClementineKenny (
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To: Ray76

I’m not sure who it was.

104 posted on 01/26/2016 9:13:12 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LeeClementineKenny
It worked. This was no siege of private land. This was no pile of 70 corpses. This was a traffic stop with a single death so far.

This is no Waco.

105 posted on 01/26/2016 9:13:44 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Nextrush

He was just enjoying a vape.

106 posted on 01/26/2016 9:16:01 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Boonie

The FBI says law enforcement is planning a 1:30am Eastern Time press conference to tell their side of the story.

107 posted on 01/26/2016 9:16:05 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Where is Janet Reno when you need her?

108 posted on 01/26/2016 9:17:17 PM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (I love my dog, but a .45 is man's best friend...)
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To: Timpanagos1
There was no siege.

Never heard of a siege where the besieged went to the supermarket and back, had friends over for coffee, and held multiple press conferences and walking tours while enjoying electricity, central air, parcel delivery service, and running water.

109 posted on 01/26/2016 9:19:55 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Timpanagos1
We shall see whether nothing happens.
110 posted on 01/26/2016 9:21:28 PM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There just is no support in Burns for his stand
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According to the ‘press’.

The coverage on this is SO different(vacant) from Ruby Ridge, Waco, Jim Jones.....

111 posted on 01/26/2016 9:23:11 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: novemberslady
That was incredible. A patriot and a cowboy.

A real American man.

Prayers for LaVoy and his loved ones, the protestors and America.

And, oh, Glenn Beck is an ass, still.

112 posted on 01/26/2016 9:23:13 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: CCGuy



113 posted on 01/26/2016 9:25:02 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Agreed. We do need more facts but we can’t allow the media/government to release those facts in a way that will allow our anger to cool and dissipate. We’ve been through that before after Ruby Ridge where we relied on the Idaho State justice system to “slow-walk” us around the block while the Feds got their ducks in a row. We got another dose of it after Waco when the survivors were charged, convicted and imprisoned where they couldn’t tell their side of the story. It’ll happen again too.

114 posted on 01/26/2016 9:26:04 PM PST by oldfart
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To: ladyjane

The Country and it’s Founding Principals are still good.

You are still good.

bo, the changer, is the problem.

115 posted on 01/26/2016 9:26:38 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: wideawake

But they deliberately broke laws as a planned part of their protest.
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At least they did not sit in the front of the bus.

They would have All been shot, after they were lynched.

116 posted on 01/26/2016 9:30:49 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Some background

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Situation Report (SITREP) for 2200L 25 JAN 2016

- Yesterday’s report of a decrease of federal and state law enforcement personnel in the vicinity of (IVO) Burns, OR has been confirmed. Sources IVO Burns report a noticeable decrease of Oregon State Police, as well as federal vehicles and personnel based out of the Burns Municipal Airport.

- There are probably in the range of 20-30 occupiers still at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, including children.

- Pacific Patriots Network leadership continues to speak with FBI contacts to ensure open lines of communication with Ammon Bundy. FBI contacts have continued to express a desire to speak with Ammon to find a peaceful resolution, although Ammon’s last two trips to speak with the FBI have been unproductive.

- Local authorities and media continue to not only be very critical of the Refuge occupation, but play up unjustified fears. Harney County Judge Steve Grasty yesterday cancelled today’s scheduled “public” meeting over “security concerns,” implying that the meeting might cause conditions to be unsafe for community members. Today, Oregon Public Broadcasting quoted the Harney County Schools Superintendent as saying:

“I had a conversation with a high school student and she wanted to know if someone entered the school with a gun, what was she to do. And I had a 5-year-old come up to me and say she couldn’t sleep at night, because someone was watching her in the trees.”

- Over the weekend, Grant County Oregon Sheriff Glen Palmer told media that releasing the Hammonds would “be a start” to ending the Malheur Refuge occupation. Sheriff Palmer also offered Ammon Bundy a sanctuary in Grant County, if he would leave the Refuge. Grant County, OR is an adjacent county to the north of Harney County.

- Eight ranchers in Utah have pledged support for Ammon Bundy and the occupiers, saying that they will also stand up for land rights against the BLM in their state. Those sentiments are widely held throughout the West, partially stemming from the Sagebrush Rebellion during the 1970s and 1980s over the same issue: land rights and federal overreach. The BLM’s tactics of bullying ranchers off their land also contribute to this sentiment.

- Oregon Governor Kate Brown continues to pressure federal, state and local law enforcement to bring an end to the Malheur occupation. So far, the top executive in Oregon has been unsuccessful in creating momentum for law enforcement action.

- Last week, former Bonner’s Ferry, Idaho mayor posted the following message to Facebook:

I served on Idaho’s Boundary County Executive Emergency Board during the Ruby Ridge catastrophe. I had a front row seat to watch a total and complete tragedy unfold. What did I learn? I learned that time is your ally and use of force is the enemy. I do not know any of the parties involved in this latest standoff but I do know absolutely nothing is being harmed by leaving the occupiers alone. The location being occupied wasn’t even being used. Patience and time will win the day. Use of force is the most likely way to end with no one winning. Avoiding another complete and utter tragedy should be the goal not some ill conceived “face saving” action designed to teach a lesson. Lets hope those in authority are more concerned about life than [saving] “face”.

ANALYST COMMENT: As if being locked in a quasi-standoff with the FBI wasn’t already enough, Ammon Bundy and the occupiers are squared up in a battle over ‘hearts and minds’ with Sheriff David Ward and Judge Steven Grasty. There’s a continued effort on behalf of Sheriff Ward, Judge Grasty, and Oregon state media to influence the people of Burns and Harney County.

The leftist Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB), an affiliate of the tremendously left-leaning National Public Radio (NPR), has consistently gone beyond reporting of the news to editorialize and imply a significant danger posed to the community of Burns by a dozen armed men and women currently residing at the Refuge over 30 miles away.

Two weeks ago, OPB was bending over backwards to score quotes from concerned locals about how scared and afraid they were of Ammon Bundy and the occupiers. Granted, several occupiers haven’t helped matters concerning their image, especially with regards to hot-headed YouTube videos, at least three cases of Stolen Valor, and felonies belonging to at least two occupiers. And that’s given Ammon Bundy and LaVoy Finnicum a significant public relations deficit from the very beginning.

Were Ammon and LaVoy not so well-spoken, were they not salt-of-the-earth Westerners, were they not even-tempered men who can clearly articulate their position, then the media and the town of Burns would really have something to fear. And Ammon and LaVoy’s ability to humanize themselves and their movement, and deliver their message to the people of Harney County and the Mountain West, has thus far probably helped to save their lives and keep them out of prison.

The FBI’s diminished presence in Burns, OR could indicate another staging area, away from the public eye of the Burns Municipal Airport. While it’s likely that many involved in the reported shift change have gone back to their respective field offices in Boise or Salt Lake (among others), it’s still possible that vehicles and personnel were moved to another location in order to avoid escalating the security situation and raising public alarm.

In order to allay the fears of the Burns community, we could possibly see local law enforcement establish travel restrictions for the occupiers. Sheriff Dave Ward could very calmly announce that Ammon Bundy and the occupiers will be arrested if they attempt to enter the town, but would otherwise be left alone at the Refuge. This would allow law enforcement to act in a very public and deliberate manner, alleviating some pressure over their inaction, and give the appearance of taking positive steps to regain control and protect the town of Burns without escalating the situation.

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To aid the Hammond family Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his family appealed to Harney county Sheriff David Ward.

Sheriff Ward took a highly adversarial position to the plight of the Hammonds, and continues to make a loud call for Aamon Bundy to step-down and discontinue the ongoing protest at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge.

By all accounts Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward wants this story out of public visibility ASAP.

We might have just discovered why.

A David Ward formerly worked for the Federal Bureau of Land Management and appears to have actually been a witness against the Hammond family in the ridiculous federal terrorism trial back in 2012.

From affidavits and court transcript records you find the following (Full pdf below)

Obviously,if that “Rangeland Specialist” Dave Ward is now Sheriff Dave Ward, he would not want the larger public to understand his complicity in the prosecution of the Hammond family. Nor would he have any motive or intent to protect Dwight or Steven Hammond from the appealed second set of sentences which were demanded by activist U.S. Attorney Amanda Marshall.

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The U.S. Attorney At The Heart of The Hammond Family Problem

The media are focused on the “Bundy Militia” angle to the standoff in Burns Oregon, where Aamon Bundy and brothers have taken over a Malheur Wildlife Refuge Headquarters to draw attention to the plight of the Hammond family.

However, a little research into the original legal battle reveals a rather startling update.

The initial, and regarded by many as overreaching, federal prosecution resulted in a federal court judge Michael Hogan assigning a 3-month sentence and 1-year sentence for Dwight Lincoln Hammond Jr (73) and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond (46) respectively.

Even federal Judge Hogan stated the prosecution under “terrorism statutes” itself was an overreach and he refused to assign ridiculously high sentences for behavior that almost every rancher has conducted for generations.

Those sentences were fulfilled by the father an son duo in 2013 with Steven Hammond exiting prison in January 2014. However, it was a decision by the U.S Attorney for the State of Oregon, Amanda Marshall, who called for an appeal to the original sentencing...

A review of Amanda Marshall reveals...

Marshall was plucked from a child advocacy legal job inside the Oregon Department of Justice.... Marshall spent part of her childhood in a commune, watched a Super Bowl at Grace Slick’s house, hung out backstage at Grateful Dead concerts

But wait, it gets better.

After winning the sentencing appeal - In May of 2015 Amanda Marshall stepped down from her job as U.S. Attorney for Oregon, citing “health concerns”.

Marshall’s subordinate, Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott Kerin, filed a hostile workplace environment complaint against Marshall after receiving numerous unwanted text and email messages from her, and after she followed him outside working hours. Marshall was reportedly driving by his home and sending multiple texts, including several she sent telling him she knew what he was doing at the time.

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more background:

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117 posted on 01/26/2016 9:32:22 PM PST by Ray76
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To: kiryandil

What if there IS no video tape?
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The FBI does not record their interrogations.

They take notes. And then write a report.

No-tape matches these methods.

118 posted on 01/26/2016 9:33:08 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: wideawake
And color me unsurprised that the Bundys did not go out in a blaze of glory.

Your keyboard is writing checks you might not be able to cash.

119 posted on 01/26/2016 9:33:14 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I’m sorry, I was being sarcastic. Dorian Johnson is the friend of Mike Brown who started the “hands up don’t shoot” lie, which he recanted.

120 posted on 01/26/2016 9:34:14 PM PST by Ray76
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