To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Hmmmmm.
Interesting.
Cruz supposedly admitted it prior to some interview when running for Senate.
Sure Hillary has the recording ready to pop out with in the general.
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
3 posted on
01/18/2016 8:55:27 PM PST by
GraceG
(The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
When I was watching, Judge Napolitano said he was a citizen.
4 posted on
01/18/2016 8:57:22 PM PST by
Inkie
To: All
5 posted on
01/18/2016 8:57:45 PM PST by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Another week of birtherism is just what the Cruz campaign wanted /src.
8 posted on
01/18/2016 8:58:46 PM PST by
SteveSCH
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Much ado about nothing.
Trumpmania = ObamaMania 2.0 - brainless, emotion-driven hubris.
10 posted on
01/18/2016 8:59:14 PM PST by
Lexinom
(New York Values == AIDS and dead babies)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The Maple syrup sucking pig Must be RIGHT over the target.
15 posted on
01/18/2016 9:02:05 PM PST by
mylife
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
18 posted on
01/18/2016 9:02:18 PM PST by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Why that’s a good as a Supreme Court decision.
22 posted on
01/18/2016 9:03:07 PM PST by
SaxxonWoods
(Trump and/or Cruz, it's all good.)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Rush & Mark, See we told you so.
Trump 2016
91 posted on
01/18/2016 9:51:57 PM PST by
BlackFemaleArmyColonel
("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Read this:
Constitutional Topic: Citizenship
... Citizenship is mentioned in
If you're going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must.
To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States.
To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born.
Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.
Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen?
Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way:"All persons born or naturalized in the United States,and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
But even this does not get specific enough.
As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation inalso allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization,
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution.
Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
- Anyone born inside the United States *
* There is an exception in the law - - the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.
This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
- Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
- Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
- Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
- Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
- Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
- Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
b>Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
Separate sections handle territories that the United States has acquired over time, such asEach of these sections confer citizenship on persons living in these territories as of a certain date,
and usually confer natural-born status on persons born in those territories after that date.For example, for Puerto Rico, all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, are automatically conferred citizenship as of the date the law was signed by the President (June 27, 1952).
Additionally, all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, are natural-born citizens of the United States.Note that because of when the law was passed, for some, the natural-born status was retroactive.
The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama.
In 8 USC 1403, the law states thatanyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen,
was "declared" to be a United States citizen.Note that the terms "natural-born" or "citizen at birth" are missing from this section.
In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized thatbecause McCain was born in the Canal Zone,
he was not actually qualified to be president.
However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply.
McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c):"a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States
and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person."
Not everyone agrees that this section includes McCain - - but absent a court ruling either way, we must presume citizenship.
U.S. Nationals
A "national" is a person who is considered under the legal protection of a country, while not necessarily a citizen.
National status is generally conferred on persons who lived in places acquired by the U.S. before the date of acquisition.
A person can be a national-at-birth under a similar set of rules for a natural-born citizen.
U.S. nationals must go through the same processes as an immigrant to become a full citizen.
U.S. nationals who become citizens are not considered natural-born.
(Continued
Listen to a REAL CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER:
Here's the supporting article from
Ilya Shapiro, a senior fellow in constitutional studies and editor-in-chief of the Cato Supreme Court Review.
Like most immigrants, he does a job Americans won't:
defending the Constitution.Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
August 26, 2013., by Ilya Shapiro
As we head into a potential government shutdown over the funding of Obamacare, the iconoclastic junior senator from Texas - - love him or hate him - - continues to stride across the national stage.
With his presidential aspirations as big as everything in his home state, by now many know what has never been a secret:Ted Cruz was born in Canada.
(Full disclosure: I'm Canadian myself, with a green card.
Also, Cruz has been a friend since his days representing Texas before the Supreme Court.)
But does that mean that Cruz's presidential ambitions are gummed up with maple syrup
or stuck in snowdrifts altogether different from those plaguing the Iowa caucuses?
Are the birthers now hoist on their own petards,having been unable to find any proof that President Obama was born outside the United States
but forcing their comrade-in-boots to disqualify himself by releasing his Alberta birth certificate?
No, actually, and it's not even that complicated; you just have to look up the right law.
It boils down to whether Cruz is a "natural born citizen" of the United States,the only class of people constitutionally eligible for the presidency.(The Founding Fathers didn't want their newly independent nation to be taken over by foreigners on the sly.)
What's a "natural born citizen" ?
The Constitution doesn't say,
but the Framers' understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate thatthe phrase means both birth abroad to American parents - - in a manner regulated by federal law - -
and birth within the nation's territory regardless of parental citizenship.
The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.
There's no ideological debate here:Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe and former solicitor general Ted Olson - -who were on opposite sides in Bush v. Gore among other cases
- - co-authored a memorandum in March 2008 detailing the above legal explanation in the context of John McCain's eligibility.Recall that McCain --lately one of Cruz's chief antagonists
- - was born to U.S. citizen parents serving on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone.
In other words, anyone who is a citizen at birth - -as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later ("naturalizes"
or who isn't a citizen at all
- - can be president.
So the one remaining question iswhether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth.
That's an easy one.
The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become "nationals and citizens of the United States at birth."
In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens - -or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere - -
citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.
That single-parent requirement has been amended several times, but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 - - Cruz was born in 1970 - -someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years,
including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen.
Cruz's mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s. Q.E.D.
So why all the brouhaha about where Obama was born, given that there's no dispute that his mother, Ann Dunham, was a citizen?Because his mother was 18 when she gave birth to the future president in 1961
and so couldn't have met the 5-year-post-age-14 residency requirement.
Had Obama been born a year later, it wouldn't have mattered whether that birth took place inHawaii,
Kenya,
Indonesia,
or anywhere else.(For those born since 1986, by the way,the single citizen parent must have only resided here for five years,at least two of which must be after the age of 14.)
In short, it may be politically advantageous for Ted Cruz to renounce his Canadian citizenship before making a run at the White House,
but his eligibility for that office shouldn't be in doubt.
As Tribe and Olson said about McCain - -and could've said aboutObama,
or the Mexico-born George Romney,
or the Arizona-territory-born Barry Goldwater
- - Cruz "is certainly NOT the hypothetical 'foreigner'who John Jay and George Washington were concerned might usurp the role of Commander in Chief."
Now stuff that in your FEEBLE BRAIN, and STEW ON IT for a long, LONG, LONG TIME !
121 posted on
01/18/2016 10:29:17 PM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Admin Moderator
FoxNews 2014 and a twitter reference are FRONT PAGE NEWS items?
165 posted on
01/19/2016 3:11:46 AM PST by
a fool in paradise
(Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Oh Puny...you’re off your meds again?
So, because Campaign Carl Cameron says it on TV, it must be an undeniable fact?
Please....
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
172 posted on
01/19/2016 6:02:55 AM PST by
ScottinVA
(If you're not enraged...why?)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
And so it goes. Campaigns are about destroying the good people and creating a false image about the bad people. From now until the election, the media will be out in full force looking for anything they can get Cruz or Trump on, and faithfully overlooking anything Hillary does.
182 posted on
01/19/2016 9:04:34 AM PST by
I want the USA back
(The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
In this article, Cruz is Satan.
186 posted on
01/19/2016 9:55:30 AM PST by
Rebelbase
(A new batch of harpies has hatched in time for the 2016 election.)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Its common sense. I am an American born woman, if I go to anycountry, not usa for a job, for vacation, for no reason at all, if I have a baby in that country, he is an American citizen, he is not a citizen of Aruba, or Panama or where ever else an American mom can be, when she has a child the child takes her citizenship, period!! Including service members serving overseas, the child is born in Iraq, so now its an Iraqi citizen? I think not.
Remember we changed the law concerning Mexicans (not sure if it is with any other nationality) when a visitor from Mexico, maybe other nations have a baby here, it is an American citizen if the parents decide, neither of them has to be an American citizen to have an American baby, but not American Moms. No they can't have a baby overseas, but the Mexicans can birth an American baby, ludicrous.
200 posted on
01/19/2016 2:23:23 PM PST by
thirst4truth
(America, What difference does it make?)
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