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To: Happy Rain

Mark Levin studiously avoids the term Natural Born Citizen and spends a lot of energy proving that Cruz is a Citizen therefore he is eligible. That is the first time I have ever heard Levin sounding weaselly and has disconcerted me to no end. There was a very skillful argument made by an FR poster yesterday that did not convince me because it did not refer to original intent as expressed outside of the Constitution itself that Levin could have made and, with his expertise on things Constitutional, might well have pointed out things I have not known but he did not do that. Instead he erected a straw man which he destroyed. It will be hard to listen to Levin uncritically again.


25 posted on 01/17/2016 2:57:08 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: arthurus

Yes, he has blown his credibility with a LOT of listeners. He has become almost unhinged over this topic. He never attempts to make a rational argument about it, but falls back on using a stream of logical fallacies to try to swat the issue away. As a long-time listener and reader of his books, I am very disappointed.


49 posted on 01/17/2016 4:41:31 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: arthurus
They all get weaselly at one time or another. They all stretch the facts to make their points.

As one conservative talk programmer once said, never let facts get in the way of a good story.

89 posted on 01/17/2016 6:14:36 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: arthurus
“Mark Levin studiously avoids the term Natural Born Citizen and spends a lot of energy proving that Cruz is a Citizen therefore he is eligible. “
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Levin does **exactly** that! He conflates citizenship with natural born citizenship. It has me shouting at the car radio. He is callously and deliberating misleading.

Levin **KNOWS** better! That makes him a LIAR and completely UNTRUSTWORTHY!

That he completely ignored Obama’s eligibility questions was unforgivable. This just adds to it.

Levin is DESPICABLE!

109 posted on 01/17/2016 7:31:14 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: arthurus
It will be hard to listen to Levin uncritically again.

That's happened for many conservative voters this political season no mater what source of news one chooses. It's probably the best thing to come out of all this.

111 posted on 01/17/2016 7:38:09 AM PST by topfile
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To: arthurus

“Mark Levin studiously avoids the term Natural Born Citizen and spends a lot of energy proving that Cruz is a Citizen therefore he is eligible. That is the first time I have ever heard Levin sounding weaselly and has disconcerted me to no end. There was a very skillful argument made by an FR poster yesterday that did not convince me because it did not refer to original intent as expressed outside of the Constitution itself that Levin could have made and, with his expertise on things Constitutional, might well have pointed out things I have not known but he did not do that. Instead he erected a straw man which he destroyed. It will be hard to listen to Levin uncritically again.”

In the same vein, if Cruz had something definitive on the subject, he could have said it already. I suppose it’s possible he’s keeping it up his sleeve, but my guess is this is costing him support at a critical time. Saying he’s not taking legal advice from Trump may have been a popular answer, but it hasn’t made the question go away.

Regardless of what the law may say or mean, is there any reason to think this particular Supreme Court couldn’t decide anything they want to?


149 posted on 01/17/2016 8:48:46 PM PST by Tymesup
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