Jewish Gay Conversion Group Shuts Down Amid Court Order Forcing Closure

Christian Post ^ | 01/04/2016 | Michael Gryboski

[onedoug]

Eff this court. Appeal.

[LS]

I know what the knee jerk reaction here will be, but something is not right. The key to this is consumer fraud, meaning this group had to be making claims and getting paid for them that they could not substantiate with results or evidence.

It would be useful to find out exactly what consumer fraud laws that the jury thought this group was breaking.

[LS]

I think there is more to it than that, but the way the story is written, you do not know what the group is really guilty of (i.e., what consumer fraud laws were they breaking)? If it was voluntary, there could be no damages, so apparently this group was getting money for this “therapy.”

[windsorknot]

Enough with the "gay" already: they are homosexual.

[Agamemnon]

What appears to be prohibited is people receiving compensation in any form where counseling someone out of the chosen homosexual lifestyle is sought by such a "customer." One seeking conversion therapy is essentially prohibited from paying anyone any sum to help them connvert.

The psychological occupation has been so over-run with these mentally ill self-validating faggots, that not one alleged "professional" can be located who upholds the definition of homosexuality as a mental disease as was traditionally done by the American Psychiatric Association c. 1973 and before.

One cannot now be "in business" doing conversion therapy as one's trade in NJ or even in CA. The most serious crime will be when one is sued for performing conversion therapy for a person seeking therapy by an individual counselor, where that individual counselor receives no compensation.

FReegards!

[ExCTCitizen]

Jonah is a victim of the Gay nazi...We need to stop liberals like the SPLC...(who IMO, is a hate group).

[xzins]

Given that ANY counseling therapy is considered excellent if it is even 45% successful, and some are much less so than that, and that reading various materials on a subject is nearly as useful as any therapy, it is hard to see how ‘fraud’ can be used of any counseling approach to change.

Alcoholic counseling, for example, has a notoriously low success rate after 5 years.

[LS]

I’m not saying there aren’t holes. But you don’t get 12 jurors to go along with a fraud ruling unless there is something there. And fraud involves damages, so there has to be someone who could prove that the group misrepresented itself. I do not trust this story.

[Intolerant in NJ]

"The overwhelming weight of scientific authority concludes that homosexuality is not a disorder or abnormal...anxiety and depression are not abnormal or necessarily disorders either - everyone experiences them but when they become unmanageable or exaggerated, people have the opportunity to seek help to gain some control over what they perceive to be a problem for them - for now.....

[Kahonek]

Read the transcripts. They’re pretty colorful. Apparently the “therapy” involved lots of nudity and naked cuddling with the “ex-gay” leaders, along with vows of secrecy. You’re correct—there is more to the story...