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Krauthammer: Cruz "Doubling Down" on Denying Former Support Of Legalizing Illegal Immigrants
realclearpolitics.com ^ | December 17, 2015

Posted on 12/18/2015 4:18:39 AM PST by Helicondelta

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: If you define amnesty as he does, as citizenship. Yes, he fought that. If you define it as allowing people who came here illegally not to suffer the consequences of illegal entry, which by law should be deportation, he did not oppose that. It is very clear that he supported that. And as you showed last night in that big showdown, many, many pieces of evidence like his interview with Byron York and others, and what he told the Texas Tribune, he, at the time, said he was in favor of a compromise that would take the 11 million out of the shadows and give them legal status.

I'm not sure I understand why he is doubling down on denying what you can demonstrate with pieces of tape. Perhaps he sees that it's worked for other candidates. He could have easily have said circumstances have changed. We now have terrorism, infiltration and all of that and I have shifted over, which I think is a rather minor difference. But he's decided he is going to go whole hog on the other side.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; americanunioncruz; cfrcruz; cruzdoubletalk; goldmansachscruz
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To: Helicondelta
The poison pill BS is 100% spin.

Well maybe it was, but it sure had the desired effect. So there is, that.

41 posted on 12/18/2015 5:46:55 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Thanks for the link. I especially liked this response to your post:

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Lengthy explanation of your position. Thanks for sharing. Glaring fault: no comprehension of Senate procedure. Example: Cruz, Lee, Sessions could not offer amendments to remove underlying legalization because that would be re-writing the base structure of the bill. The only way to do that in a markup (which is what we call the sessions during which the parent committee amends and re-writes bills) is to offer what is called a “sponsors amendment.” That gets its name, as you may have guessed, from amendments offered by a bills sponsoring Senators. As neither Cruz, nor Sessions, nor Lee were sponsors, no such amendment altering the fundamentals could be offered by them.

Therefore, the best those three stalwart conservative members of the Judiciary Committee could do was offer a long list of amendments doomed to failure to have a record of just how awful the bill was. Examples included the Cruz pathway to citizenship amendment, and a Sessions bill changing legal immigration quotas.

Again this is procedural minutiae that quite often makes lay mens eyes glaze over. If immigration reform champion Sessions, rock-solid conservative Lee, and FReepers with years of experience are telling you exactly why your argument doesnt hold water, perhaps its time you listen.

95 posted on December 18, 2015 at 1:02:05 AM PST by brothers4thID

42 posted on 12/18/2015 5:47:54 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MNJohnnie
I'll take the word of Cruz, Lee, Sessions over those of Krauthammer, York and Hume anytime. CXheck this out from National Review highlighting Cruz' position from the getgo.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/347915/gang-eight-excludes-amendments-andrew-stiles

43 posted on 12/18/2015 6:02:10 AM PST by bubman
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To: Shugee
To answer your question - No! FOX pundits are showing they are tools of the GOPe in the Congress. Brit Hume, who we all love on FR, repeated the GOPe comment that when the voters see the Ted Cruz that the congress knows, he will fall in the polls!

Really, the fact that the turncoats GOP in the Congress hate Cruz increases creditability.

44 posted on 12/18/2015 6:07:15 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Helicondelta

Krauthammer, the biased.


45 posted on 12/18/2015 6:19:57 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Axeslinger

“You might wanna just go ahead and come out...you wont be judged too harshly for wanting to have Trumps baby.”

You might think he’s a Trump operative but in reality he’s a Hillary Clinton operative.

The tactic of repeating a lie over and over and over even after it’s proven to be a lie was perfected by the Clintons and has been their favorite tactic for the last 24 years.

Notice how many in the news media came out with the exact same talking points all at the same time?

That can only be done by democrat operatives.


46 posted on 12/18/2015 6:20:51 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“The media is going to keep asking him about legalization until the crack of doom. “

Good. Repeated questioning might fluster some. Not Cruz. It will help explain the Gang of Eight’s treachery, expose Rubio’s involvement and make it clear to the dense folks out there what “poison pill” means.


47 posted on 12/18/2015 6:41:29 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Helicondelta

Is there any way to email these morons, either network or individually? I seem to be a dummy and cannot find a way to show Fox my distaste for them any more. They seem to think like the Republican party in that we have nowhere else to turn for news.


48 posted on 12/18/2015 6:48:08 AM PST by biff
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz cannot escape this argument. Unless Cruz’s entire support base consists of the sort of people who might walk in on their spouse laying in bed with someone else, and then believing their lying spouse when she/he tells them they’re hallucinating, then Cruz is just going into a world of hurt.

The media is going to keep asking him about legalization until the crack of doom.
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I see you’re still on your hyperactive, continuous JIHAD against the constitutional conservative Ted Cruz.

Are you, by any chance, a RETREAD?


49 posted on 12/18/2015 6:55:25 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Wow, I notice that Krauthammer has picked up YOUR line of attack against the constitutional conservative Ted Cruz. Nice crowd you’re hanging out with.


50 posted on 12/18/2015 6:57:38 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: Helicondelta

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Just another manure spreader from inside the beltway. His mission: and he has accepted it:

To spread the crap generated by the BS artists inside the beltway and try to make is plausible.


51 posted on 12/18/2015 7:02:53 AM PST by JayAr36 (How much more corruption will we willing to take from the Washington???????)
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To: Shugee

They volunteered for the Yeb bandwagon, when those wheels fell off it was a fast scramble for “Who Next” and their ‘reach across the aisle, Gang of 8 Rubberio’ was there to save their day.

Cruz looks to be playing Rubberio like a violin. Marco ain’t sharp enough to play Chess.


52 posted on 12/18/2015 7:08:15 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: stormhill

Oh, he understands. He just hopes “we” won’t understand.

Rubberio is their last hope against the tsunami.


53 posted on 12/18/2015 7:10:09 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: PoloSec

Cruz learned how to handle ‘the long knives are out and slashing erratically’ during one of the dirtiest Senate campaigns in Texas’ history of dirty GOPe politics (ex- Yeller Dog dems)up against DuWorst.


54 posted on 12/18/2015 7:18:33 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

Yes indeed and I would add he remained at least as reported weak in Poll’s with only a few reporting he was at best even right up until the election, where he beat Dewhurst aka Duworst bloody.

As far as Cruz is concerned negative Polls are not a true indicator of his position, his ever increasing confidence is the true indicator; as my pappy use to say about skinny women or a good steak (in this case a political race) the closer the bone the sweeter the meat, the closer to Feb (the bone) we get the more people will realize and savor the taste of the good stuff.

Cruz... 2016, with great respect, appreciation and admiration for Donald Trump who has brought participation and enthusiasm to multitudes who otherwise would not be engaged, Cruz will take this primary.


55 posted on 12/18/2015 8:25:55 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Mount Athos

Just more evidence that Krauthammer has jumped the shark.


56 posted on 12/18/2015 11:20:19 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: PoloSec

Your Pappy wasn’t lyin’.


57 posted on 12/18/2015 1:36:38 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Helicondelta

Let’s face facts. Ted Cruz was never going to deport anybody or build a wall or otherwise secure the border.


58 posted on 01/05/2016 2:58:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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