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To: Democratic-Republican

Good post. I disagree with the narrative but you have made several good points. I am happy to see someone from the other camp make a rational argument for a change! There are some, but they are rather far and few between.

Hopefully, at his age, Cruz can do as Taft did and serve on the Court after he has finished his time in the White House.

While in the White House, being the Constitutional scholar that you have stipulated, his vetos would be as welcome as the ones you praised Madison for.

As for electability in the general, he faces the same media and baseless attacks that any Republican must face. The difference this time is that Cruz, as the Republican nominee, wouldn’t be the Democrat-light candidate a la Romney, McCain and Dole. He would be a conservative Republican with exceptional debate skills and could eviscerate Hillary with the precision of a former State Attorney General.


351 posted on 12/10/2015 7:39:39 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: FerociousRabbit
Good post. I disagree with the narrative but you have made several good points. I am happy to see someone from the other camp make a rational argument for a change! There are some, but they are rather far and few between.

Hopefully, at his age, Cruz can do as Taft did and serve on the Court after he has finished his time in the White House.

While in the White House, being the Constitutional scholar that you have stipulated, his vetos would be as welcome as the ones you praised Madison for.

As for electability in the general, he faces the same media and baseless attacks that any Republican must face. The difference this time is that Cruz, as the Republican nominee, wouldn't be the Democrat-light candidate a la Romney, McCain and Dole. He would be a conservative Republican with exceptional debate skills and could eviscerate Hillary with the precision of a former State Attorney General.

Thanks for the reply. And pardon in advance my rambling. It is a fine day to vent and pontificate. Anyway, I'm not in any camp at the moment, unless you mean New York and have had Trump all around me since forever.

As far as the primary election goes, I am also in no camp in the same way that you might be in a Farmers' Market and sifting through fresh apples and finding lots that you won't toss in the bag with few remaining good choices.

Viewed scientifically, Trump is however beginning to make purely logical sense to me as a choice as the field narrows, his enemies identify themselves, but especially if you look at the electorate and concentrate on the dozen swing states where the election will be determined.

A key item that many are failing to consider is that had Trump not shown up, immigration would not even be mentioned at all, naturalization would be a fait accompli and the country officially lost as another Euroweenie state within a couple of decades, at most. I have no clue as to whether a President Trump can follow through on that promise, and even less hope that a Constitutional Convention or Article V Convention would occur, but there's that smidgen of optimism that he just might. This is the only issue, full-stop, the Supreme Court a close 2nd, but almost all these others are crazy because immigration and naturalization and switching Texas from "red" to "blue" is the only one that can change the (D)ummycrat advantage from 250 electoral votes to 270+ and effectively end all elections going forward.

Were Trump not here, no-one would be riding herd on this issue, period. In fact Cruz would be annihilated as being a descended from new immigrants if he even considered bringing it up in the first place. And that of course is before they mention he was born in Canada and Hillary was not. They really have the means to neutralize Cruz whenever they want to pull the trigger. Point Trump since Cruz cannot even discuss the most important issue of our time for obvious reasons, except in response to questions ... about Trump on immigration.

But he needs to pick up most of the ten swing states that Romney lost, twelve for McCain. OH, PA, NC, FL, IN, VA, NV, NM, CO, MI, WI, IA. In which states and how, does a Constitutionalist expert debater manage to turn purple into 'red'. In most of those you find the Coal/Rust belt and jobs lost to illegal aliens. Having demonstrated their willingness to pull the lever for (D)ummycrats instead of Romney or McCain and Palin, why would anyone expect election night to be anything other than a repeat is beyond me. The winner of most of those states will require substantial (D) crossover. They are clamoring for jobs, immigration restraint, therefore this is point Trump.

But most importantly, the Cruz we see today is NOT the Cruz we would be seeing absent the Trump phenomenon and its unexpected and very successful head-on attack on political correctness. Cruz would now be a train wreck beyond the destruction of the great George Allen. Trump has been a bona fide SDI missile defense system from the incoming liberal and GOPe nukes. And the reason? They despise Cruz more than anyone else because he is a Constitutionalist in the first place. The current electorate is not Constitutional or Conservative friendly, and nor was any other in fact. Rush has always got this wrong, it is not a Conservative country. We are possibly a little more numerous than liberals, but not by much, if it hasn't already been lost. The illegal alien invasion and their pardoning and their naturalization is a mechanism for the enemy to change the old 1/3 patriot 1/3 traitor 1/3 undecided into something forever worse. And something that can never be undone. Once again, there is no other issue.

Additionally, as if he doesn't have enough enemies, Ted Cruz must be very VERY careful now. If he makes the mistake of attacking Trump, his supporters will never give him the time of day to say the least, since Trump has been taking bullets that are also meant for him, and that goes over like, well, treason. It would be a huge mistake, this thread demonstrates it. Nothing burns someone like betrayal or the perception of same. Trump's fervent supporters are not a forgiving lot ( and that's a good thing ) and it is best that their ire remains aimed at the GOPe.

Having said that, I have often noted that Cruz and Trump are *not* taking shots at each other so it makes no sense for their 'supporters' to do this instead. We're seeing something historical thus far, two 'rivals' *not* shooting at each other. They appear to be smarter than many of their own followers.

Oh, about 'the Vetoes'. As I mentioned, there cannot be many vetoes by a President Cruz as they are operating presently. It is a rigged game with Continuing Resolutions and the threat of shutdowns. It is set up to allow automatic funding of everything and has effectively invented an American Express black card for FedGov, an infinite credit limit charged to our children, grand-children and great^5-grand-children. And they have rigged a firing squad for anyone that steps in to demand accountability.

It will take a hurricane force of nature to change that. I have no idea if he is so inclined but point goes to Trump here, if and only if he demands them to stop the CR, maybe bring in Gingrich to head a working group, and do what Reagan was alleged to have done and threaten individual members of Congress with flying into their districts with Air Force One and campaign for their replacement. I have pointed out that Trump's show of flying everywhere for massive rallies is exactly the weapon that Reagan's enemies feared. Once again, your guess is as good as mine as to whether he would follow through on such a threat. I think he might, especially since the GOPe and Chamber of Commerce are propping up so many of these Congress critters.

357 posted on 12/10/2015 9:04:30 PM PST by Democratic-Republican
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