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U.S. Brings Dogfighters to Counter Russians Over Syria
thedailybeast.com ^ | 11.03.151:00 AM ET | David AxeIcemen

Posted on 11/03/2015 1:33:27 AM PST by SaveFerris

The Pentagon is sending F-15Cs—supposedly to fight the ISIS war. But the jets only have air-to-air weapons, and ISIS has no planes. Which means the real adversary is Russia.

The U.S. Air Force is deploying to Turkey up to a dozen jet fighters specializing in air-to-air combat—apparently to help protect other U.S. and allied jets from Russia’s own warplanes flying over Syria.

Officially, the deployment of F-15C Eagle twin-engine fighters to Incirlik, Turkey—which the Pentagon announced late last week—is meant to “ensure the safety” of America’s NATO allies, Laura Seal, a Defense Department spokesperson, told The Daily Beast.

That could mean that the single-seat F-15s and the eight air-to-air missiles they routinely carry will help the Turkish air force patrol Turkey’s border with Syria, intercepting Syrian planes and helicopters that periodically stray into Turkish territory.

But more likely, the F-15s will be escorting attack planes and bombers as they strike ISIS militants in close proximity to Syrian regime forces and the Russian warplanes that, since early October, have bombed ISIS and U.S.-backed rebels fighting the Syrian troops.

Seal declined to discuss the deployment in detail, but hinted at its true purpose. “I didn’t say it wasn’t about Russia,” she said.

Russia’s air wing in western Syria is notable for including several Su-30 fighters that are primarily air-to-air fighters. The Su-30s’ arrival in Syria raised eyebrows, as Moscow insists its forces are only fighting ISIS, but ISIS has no aircraft of its own for the Su-30s to engage.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dailybeast; f15; icemen; iran; israel; lebanon; russia; syria; usa; waronterror
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I am loathe to post from TDB (yuck, I usually avoid it and got there by some Yahoo link) and since this is already "out there" the cat is out of the bag, if there's really a cat that was in the bag.

That being said, I put this out there FWIW, which may be very little.

Make of it what you will, me, I'm going to adjust my tinfoil hat just a teensy bit.

And with that, have at it.......make of it what you will.....

1 posted on 11/03/2015 1:33:27 AM PST by SaveFerris
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; righttackle44; ...

ping


2 posted on 11/03/2015 1:38:03 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: null and void

Since I mentioned tinfoil, better ping ya, too......


3 posted on 11/03/2015 1:42:11 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

Michael Vick is going to Syria?


4 posted on 11/03/2015 1:49:36 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: SaveFerris
Putin will not interpret this as a threat
5 posted on 11/03/2015 1:50:25 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

hehe


6 posted on 11/03/2015 1:53:25 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris
So Obama has sent American F15s to Turkey to protect the Turkish and Qatari backed Al Qaeda and ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria

We now have American fighter planes facing off with Russian SU 30s in an active combat zone in the most volatile flash point in the world , all to protect a bunch of Terrorists we spent 8 years fighting in the war on terror.

There is no way this will end well because it's already started out as a worst case scenario which can only get worse.

FUBAR

7 posted on 11/03/2015 1:53:54 AM PST by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: SaveFerris

What the hell is in Syria that we WANT so bad?

If this is true, someone has got to stop Obama, not Putin.


8 posted on 11/03/2015 1:54:34 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: rdcbn; Vermont Lt

Sorry won’t get to every comment on the thread because I’m about to sign off in a bit.

Nonetheless, I read your posts. I really, really, really hope this report is just completely wrong.

But with this guy we have as CIC, a Russian airliner down in the Sinai, Turkey weird as usual, I’m just wondering what in the world is going on.

Oy vey


9 posted on 11/03/2015 1:59:42 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

“Dogfighter” is an insult to ISLAM! INFIDELS! The name must be changed to “Swords of Islam!” And each fighter pilot is awarded a 9 year old bride, or a one year old goat.


10 posted on 11/03/2015 2:03:00 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Vermont Lt

What the hell is in Syria that we WANT so bad?


We would need to ask the muslim brotherhood. Obama seems to follow their wishes.


11 posted on 11/03/2015 2:15:46 AM PST by boycott
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To: rdcbn

So Obama has sent American F15s to Turkey to protect the Turkish and Qatari backed Al Qaeda and ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria


That is exactly what is happening.


12 posted on 11/03/2015 2:17:39 AM PST by boycott
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To: boycott

Once Assad is gone it’s the perfect place for Hussein’s Caliphate. We are, once again, on the wrong side.


13 posted on 11/03/2015 2:25:48 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: SaveFerris

Ok, I’ll don the shiny beanie......

Has US intelligence gotten wind of a pending strike on Iran by Israel, and these particular implements have been positioned in Turkey to focus the mind of Benjamin Netanyahu?


14 posted on 11/03/2015 2:53:09 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

Well, I can’t fault ya for that one.

God help us (He won’t) if we’re up against Israel.

In fact, more likely the opposite.

Big oy vey.


15 posted on 11/03/2015 2:58:56 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Vermont Lt
Obama wants to support radical Islamic terrorists

Syria is a perfect way to do so

Syria was the staging ground for Al Qaeda and Saddam era dead enders waging the insurgency in Iraq with the full support of Assad

Bush was training Syrian dissidents in Jordan to take out Assad

When Bush won in Iraq, the al Qaeda insurgents retreated to Syria and decided that if they could not have Iraq then they would settle for Syria

At the same time, the Oil States decided they would like to oust Assad to put in a pipeline so they saw the dead Enders and terrorists as the perfect tools to form a mercenary proxy army to oust Assad and install a Muslim Brotherhood government in Syria

Obama co opted the Bush era anti Assad infrastructure and training programs and twisted them to his purpose as part of his disastrous Arab Spring plan to oust the stable secular Arab old guard leadership and support terrorists instead of fighting them. After all, one mans terrorist is another’s freedom fighter and there is not a lot of ways to background check mercenaries in the region.

16 posted on 11/03/2015 3:19:59 AM PST by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: SaveFerris

A war with Russia would provide immense benefits to the Democrat Party next November. It might well provide cover and pretext for some innovative actions by the newly wartime president.


17 posted on 11/03/2015 3:21:24 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: boycott

It appears that Barak Hussein is the head of the Moslem Brotherhood In America.


18 posted on 11/03/2015 3:23:49 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: wayoverontheright

I suspect strongly that is the case.


19 posted on 11/03/2015 3:24:22 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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