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Obama’s America: Look why this black CHURCH is being fined
Allen West ^ | October 15, 2015 | Michele Hickford

Posted on 10/15/2015 12:33:45 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

We already know the left has a problem with all those bitter folks who cling to their guns and religion – code words for white Christians. We reported yesterday about the high school football coach who could very well lose his job for praying on the 50-yard-line before each game. But it appears the assault on Christianity in this nation isn’t a “whites only” policy. A church in Oakland, California has been threatened with a nuisance fee of $3,500 and daily fines of $500 – for what?

Singing.

Yes, while most people who love Gospel music call it “the joyful noise,” apparently folks in Oakland just hear it as…noise. As KPIX 5 reports, the City of Oakland sent a letter to Pleasant Grove Baptist Church in West Oakland with details of the supposed infraction and resulting fines and saying “…this activity (choir practice) may constitute a public nuisance due to its impact to the use and quiet enjoyment of the surrounding community’s property.”

Church pastors met this week to discuss the issue and said the real problem is gentrification of the neighborhood. The church is located amidst a neighborhood full of old Victorians which are being purchased by affluent tech workers. “The pastors said all churches are threatened by the city’s action and they plan to fight it. Pastors are also thinking about organizing outdoor services throughout Oakland so everyone can enjoy the joyful noise that much more.

For its part, the church said it will continue with choir practice on Thursday.” Do #ChristianBlackLivesMatter? Remember, the Obama administration didn’t lift a finger to help Sudanese Christian Meriam Ibrahim escape her captivity and death sentence – even though her two children were American citizens. You’d think she would have hit all the buttons: black, immigrant, refugee…but nope.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
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Blacks too are feeling the pain of this president.

January 2017...tick-tock...

1 posted on 10/15/2015 12:33:45 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Is the Church in a properly zoned area?

Were they already there for a long time without complaints and were these only recent?

Is some resident upset they moved near a Church? Then why did they buy where they did?

This is like someone moving next to an airport knowing it was there and then saying the noise needs to go.


2 posted on 10/15/2015 12:36:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

oh my...wait till the adhan horns start...


3 posted on 10/15/2015 12:38:36 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

“Pastors are also thinking about organizing outdoor services throughout Oakland so everyone can enjoy the joyful noise that much more. “


Is this that “religious liberty” that’s all the rage?
“We’re going to make a racket on the street in front
of your house, because ... we’re being oppressed!”


4 posted on 10/15/2015 12:39:45 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: sparklite2

This comment made me smile...


5 posted on 10/15/2015 12:42:22 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
this activity (choir practice) may constitute a public nuisance due to its impact to the use and quiet enjoyment of the surrounding community’s property.

Yes most definitely an assault on Christianity flamed by the LBGT radicals and their supporters who are too stupid to realize the troubles they are unleashing upon the world.

6 posted on 10/15/2015 12:43:22 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

“this activity (choir practice) may constitute a public nuisance due to its impact to the use and quiet enjoyment of the surrounding community’s property.” “

Try claiming that when the bass from all the cars in the neighborhood driving by your house actually shake things off the walls or rattle items on shelves (this happens from roughly 100 feet away). The ordinance in my neck of the woods clearly states if you can hear it from 50 feet away or further it’s too loud.

There doesn’t seem to be any sense of urgency about certain people making noise that hinders quiet enjoyment of a given community.


7 posted on 10/15/2015 12:45:24 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: Robert DeLong

Post of the day!


8 posted on 10/15/2015 12:46:28 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Oakland borders Berkeley and is maybe having its effect.

Would bet this Oakland Baptist Church has some seriously excellent music.


9 posted on 10/15/2015 12:51:21 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Would the same letter be sent if this was a mosque & the complaint was about the call to prayer?


10 posted on 10/15/2015 12:52:10 PM PDT by sofaman (An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jcon40

Yes! They are shaking up God’s House with the Gospel!:)


11 posted on 10/15/2015 12:55:57 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: sofaman

Amen!!! 2nd best post of the day!!!


12 posted on 10/15/2015 12:56:38 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

;)


13 posted on 10/15/2015 12:56:38 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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I am reminded of a certain species of meddling jerk that moves into the neighborhood of a firing range or a general aviation airport, and then starts whining and moaning about the noise.

Eff 'em ...

14 posted on 10/15/2015 1:01:09 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

What sort of nitwit files a complaint about church singing? What’s next, complaining about church bells? (I know. Somewhere, someone has already complained about that too.)

I remember, way back when, living in the city. I would walk by a Baptist church on my way from the subway to my apartment. It was always a joy when I would walk by and hear choir practice.


15 posted on 10/15/2015 1:04:29 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: A CA Guy

Residential on either side across narrow driveways, otherwise surrounded by residential except for the church parking lot across the street.

The building does look fairly new, so I couldn’t tell if the neighbors came to the problem, or the problem came to the neighbors.


16 posted on 10/15/2015 1:04:54 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: A CA Guy
Exactly. Morons who move next to an airport and then whine about all the jet engine noise need to be shown the door and fined for wasting the court's time with frivolous lawsuits.

Same situation here. Some churches locate on hilltops or culdesacs because they like the view or quiet respectively. Then people buy property near them for the same reasons and complain about all the church traffic.

Sometimes, I think, just as an object lesson to all these complainers, the church should sell their property to a cat house.

17 posted on 10/15/2015 1:07:39 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Looks like they’ve got ‘Black Lives Matter’ on their side.
http://postnewsgroup.com/blog/2015/10/09/churches-respond-noise-complaints-filed-west-oakland-church/


18 posted on 10/15/2015 1:07:44 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

What about the call to prayer 5 times a day by Mosques? Is that going to be banned?


19 posted on 10/15/2015 1:11:18 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Didn't Obama once describe the Muslim call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset?”

But Christian choir practice, not so much.

-PJ

20 posted on 10/15/2015 1:12:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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