[roadcat]

Of course the illegals coming from poverty who are used to taking what they want, won't be affected much.

Maybe I disagree a bit here. They'll be dead. When the collapse happens, and the illegals try taking stuff from citizens, it's no more Mr. Nice Guy as those citizens fight back. Mamas will kill to defend their kid's needs. We just don't know how the "authorities" will cope with it all, a big unknown.

[dragnet2]

Already happened decades ago. Lots of these folks take people's stuff and kill people. They're jamming the jails on and on.

But I agree with the mama defending comment ☺. Btw. Bottom line we're bleeding from wounds in every sector. We need to try to stop it soon or we bleed out. Real leadership is critically needed. And avoiding a mad max thing is very preferable. I've seen it. No one sane wants to go there.