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When will Jim banish Trump supporters from FR, like he did with Giuliani advocates? [JR @ 305]
one man's opinion...

Posted on 07/25/2015 2:15:15 PM PDT by ken5050

On 4/23/2007, Jim Robinson posted a manifesto, "Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement" (and a knife in the back) . The thread was subtitled, "The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

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To: RabidBartender

Yes, the infamous “bug zapper” thread. :-)

381 posted on 07/26/2015 5:47:58 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nickcarraway; datura; HANG THE EXPENSE

nickcarraway, you’re being too simplistic. It’s not necessarily about supporting Trump.

You don’t have to support Trump (or Cruz for that matter) to appreciate what they are doing.

When is the last time there were two candidates for President who took on both major political parties and the media while running as Republicans?

Think about that.

If you support Cruz, as I currently do, you see that Trump is making Cruz issues popular with the moderate middle(the old Moral Majority and Reagan Democrats, among others).

At the same time, Cruz is legitimizing Trump’s candidacy with his support and praise for the positions Trump is taking, particularly on border security and illegal aliens and unlawful immigration.

The dynamic between the two men is an interesting one, and well worth watching and encouraging. We may well be witnessing the building of a powerful coalition.

382 posted on 07/26/2015 6:44:05 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: ken5050

Great post!

I wonder what the response will be...

383 posted on 07/26/2015 7:12:57 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Yaelle
Thank you Yaelle, it was chock full of grammatical and spelling errors, and unfortunately rambling and incoherent, I was extremely tired when I posted.
384 posted on 07/26/2015 8:10:29 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The polls coming out today show that Mr. Trump has had a successful week, and these are from the polls that I consider to have a Liberal, Establishment bias. Mr. Trump hit hard at media bias, border security and better treatment for Vets last week and it seems to be resonating well with the public.
Some of the polls can be construed as Mr. Trump having support in the 40% range.
What will things look like next Sunday!!
385 posted on 07/26/2015 8:15:48 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

You are correct, and that is a huge difference. We still had a hangover from the Bush years when we thought we were going to get the country back on track. The disillusionment was swift in coming, but it was cinched once the GOPe won the House and the Senate majorities, and proceeded with alacrity to uphold Hussein’s policies. The SC twisted the knife in our backs.

386 posted on 07/26/2015 8:33:19 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: flaglady47
Trump is no Romney. Their personalities are diametrically opposed, and Romney never came flat out and vociferously on conservative issues like Trump does. Apples and oranges.

Trump blamed the 2008 financial crisis on Republicans, when we know full well that it was Clinton policies that caused the housing bubble. Trump has changed his positions on life, taxation and health care 180 degrees in the last six years, when he supported Obama for President. He has had identified with five different political parties since 2001.

But you're right. He's no Romney. Trump's flip-flops make Romney look like Calvin Coolidge.

387 posted on 07/26/2015 8:36:25 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No social transformation without representation." - Justice Antonin Scalia)
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To: flaglady47

Well said flaglady47, well said.

388 posted on 07/26/2015 8:39:45 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: randita
"Humility and faith are two qualities that all of our great presidents have possessed. Trump has neither. He is arrogant and prideful. He said that he has never asked God for forgiveness. That comment told me all I need to know about him."


His speeches are littered with "I, I, I, me, me, me", along with grand descriptions of accomplishments that eclipse those of everyone else. We rightfully skewer Obama for such unbridled egomania, but for some reason, Trump receives adulation for it.

Let him talk now. It's useful. But he is not fit for the presidency.

389 posted on 07/26/2015 8:40:12 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: TomasUSMC
"The big question is if Trump comes out ProChoice... will Conservatives vote for him."

One Freeper told me she would vote for him even if he were pro-choice and pro-queer marriage.

390 posted on 07/26/2015 8:41:50 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: re_nortex

I don’t use the term “liberal” anymore when referring to ‘rats and their fellow travellers. There’s no such animal in party politics these days. They are leftists.

391 posted on 07/26/2015 8:45:40 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: flaglady47

Trump changes his politics a lot, the debates will determine where he stands clearly under pressure .

Trump in 1999: ‘I am Very Pro-Choice’ - NBC News
Trump clarified his views on abortion, saying he favors abortion rights, but respects those who oppose his position. “I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors,” he said.
Source: Pat Eaton-Robb, Associated Press , Dec 2, 1999

Now he is Pro Life.

Mitt did the same thing.

392 posted on 07/26/2015 8:50:04 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: ken5050

Please. Stop it. We don’t need to go through all that again. I want Cruz but I am glad Trump has brought up bad trade deals and the suffering caused by illegals and has stoop up to Bush, McBackstabber and his girlfriend, Lindsay. Glad he has stood up to the media (like Cruz has been doing since elected Senator); especially the Mexican media. I’m glad he’s gotten into the leftist corporate welfare boys who own both parties.

Trump may be a one trick pony as far as appealing to conservatives and populists. He’s got no track record in public service but he’s been all over the map and goes liberal when liberals whip up a frenzy; like joining the liberal hysteria in being against the second amendment, a position which he now renounces saying he is pro gun ownership.

I would bet that he’d go along with giving libs the power to deny rights to anyone who is “mentally ill” and then libs would go on a witch hunt given they control the medical system and all records under Obamacare.

He’ll cut his own throat because although he’s a successful business man, he is not too smart in Western culture and real history and society, politics and law, from a conservative point of view. Cruz knows about all of this.

We needed an anti-Rino - the GOP power structure currently in place. It’s wrecking the country and is corrupt. Trump’s breaking all their “polite” rules in an extreme way and opening the door to Cruz to approach taboo subjects that are hurting Americans but that Rinos don’t want to discuss and change.

393 posted on 07/26/2015 8:56:16 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: nickcarraway

Go, Trump, GO!! Diss the RINOs and make them cry.

394 posted on 07/26/2015 9:22:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Well said. Far more eloquently than my original post. Thanks,

395 posted on 07/26/2015 9:41:35 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: flaglady47
Guiliani, by the way, held his liberal beliefs throughout his run for President. He did not retract or modify his beliefs on gay marriage, abortion, etc. He came into his campaign with those beliefs. He has kept those beliefs to this very day. He has not have an epiphany at any point in time in his life, he has stayed hardfast in those beliefs to this very moment. Guiliani has a true liberal streak.

And lets not forget who he anointed to follow him as Mayor of NYC (ugh!)

396 posted on 07/26/2015 10:05:09 AM PDT by Don Joe ([expletive deleted])
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To: wardaddy


397 posted on 07/26/2015 10:07:55 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: wardaddy

... and then there were the “Crevo Wars,” running almost simultaneously and with many of the same screen names. Their anti-site was Darwin Central. FR was a very busy and contentious place at the time.

398 posted on 07/26/2015 10:14:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry; onyx; Pelham; Squantos

You know man I’d wager at least half of today’s Freepers don’t know our history like you do

The zenith of the Crevo Wars was Mineral Mans opus which was trumpeted along the left wing forums as a sign we were dead here

Mineral Man subsequently went to Clown Posse and was feted as a person of import there

He was purely a cultural leftist plain and simple who wanted fiscal restraint

Boy Nolu Chan as just one old man who loved the South even though he no longer lived here absolutely throttle Clown Posse and caused them to run scared and close shop overnight

They shouldn’t have messed with him

He’d have to be 80 now God love him

399 posted on 07/26/2015 10:27:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (Mark Levin.....I love him...but he is ignorant of Dixie)
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To: wardaddy

Don’t forget about Liberty Post back in the day. Lots of antiFReep going on there.

400 posted on 07/26/2015 10:41:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( NASCAR 2015: "Bootlegger to boot licker"--FReeper Crim)
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