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To: D Rider

>>Idiots with chambered rounds. The real reason they disarmed the military stateside. The military spends a pitiful little amount of time at the range or on gun handling. For most soldiers, basic training is about it. And they spend very little range time there. That’s the sad truth.

Even when I was armed stateside (standing watch on my submarine), we never chambered a round unless a threat was visible. I keep seeing videos of these “guards” and in every one, they keep fingering the fire selector and I kept thinking, “these guys probably have a round chambered and there is going to be an accident”.


14 posted on 07/25/2015 7:31:27 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

It’s 1. A ridiculous proposition that you were ordered to stand guard without a loaded weapon ready to fire, and 2. Sad that you still appear to be suffering lingering effects of lousy leadership, policy and training.

My .02


16 posted on 07/25/2015 7:37:02 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Bryanw92
I've seen it also. As a contractor overseas, it seems that I was always correcting young soldiers about this. Many of these guards, I'm sure, are former military. We really need to get back to basics. Train our soldiers and then arm our soldiers. Taking away there weapons was a stupid solution.

Heck, the gov funds planned parenthood, maybe they should fund the NRA to train our military ( and ex military) on proper gun handling.

18 posted on 07/25/2015 7:50:22 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Bryanw92
Even when I was armed stateside (standing watch on my submarine), we never chambered a round unless a threat was visible.

Same here, on 1950s Fleet Boats in Key West, FL. The routine was for the deck watch to hand the belt holstered M1911 over to your replacement. It had a loaded magazine, but the chamber was clear.

I had the midwatch one night, came topside, and saw the guy near the stern, gun in hand. I hailed him as I approached and he handed me the belt and pistol, saying "Be careful, it's loaded." I gingerly checked it out - hammer was back but the safety was on. Still, I nearly crapped, and asked why.

Talk about weird. We were the seventh boat out, moored alongside the tender, no moon and quiet as a tomb. There was a distant floodlight off the tender, but that was it. The guy said he was near the stern and heard a woman softly moan. With neck hair standing up straight, he unbuttoned the flap on the holster and went all the way aft. Another moan. He said he could almost hear the Twilight Zone music, so he took gun in hand.

Third moan, almost at his feet, and the guy racks the slide, going on full alert. There's a splash along side and in the faint light from the tender, he sees a porpoise breaching and moaning as it expels the air. Major comic relief.

I asked him why he didn't unload the pistol and he said he was afraid that in the dark, the round would fall in between the wooden deck slats. He was headed towards the conning tower to clear it in the light when I came on duty. I never thought about it until later but he was SO spooked, he might have shot me.

44 posted on 07/25/2015 12:09:29 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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