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SCOTUS ruling on same sex marriage mandates nationwide concealed carry reciprocity
Bearing Arms ^ | 6-26-15 | Bob Owens

Posted on 06/28/2015 11:10:19 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat

If you’re following any of the various media outlets this morning, you’re probably aware that the U.S. Supreme Court has just extended gay marriage to all 50 states.

The Supreme Court ruled Friday that same-sex couples have a right to marry nationwide, in a historic decision that invalidates gay marriage bans in more than a dozen states.

Gay and lesbian couples already can marry in 36 states and the District of Columbia. The court’s ruling on Friday means the remaining 14 states, in the South and Midwest, will have to stop enforcing their bans on same-sex marriage.

The outcome is the culmination of two decades of Supreme Court litigation over marriage, and gay rights generally.

You can peruse the full ruling here, but the meat of the activist Court’s over-long decision hinges on a single paragraph.

The Court used Section 1 of the Fourteen Amendment to justify their argument, which reads:

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

By using the Constitution in such a manner, the Court argues that the Due Process Clause extends “certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy” accepted in a majority of states across the state lines of a handful of states that still banned the practice.

The vast majority of states are “shall issue” on the matter of issuing concealed carry permits, and enjoy reciprocity with a large number of other states.

My North Carolina concealed carry permit, for example, was recognized yesterday as being valid in 36 states, which just so happened to be the number of states in which gay marriage was legal yesterday. But 14 states did not recognize my concealed carry permit yesterday.

Today they must.

Using the same “due process clause” argument as the Supreme Court just applied to gay marriage, my concealed carry permit must now be recognized as valid in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

I’ll be driving through the District of Columbia, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York in several weeks, places that until yesterday I did not have a legal right to concealed carry. As of today, with this decision, it would seem that these states and the District must honor my concealed carry permit, or violate my constitutional rights under the 14th and Second Amendment.

God Bless America.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; concealedcarry; districtofcolumbia; homosexualagenda; libertarians; maryland; medicalmarijuana; newjersey; newyork; obamanation; scotus0caredecision; secondamendment
I personally don't agree with the article.. But it brings up yet one more unintended consequence of the black Friday ruling.
1 posted on 06/28/2015 11:10:19 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat

We have a kangaroo court running the nation. The laws are what they say they are. They don’t have to follow logic or precedence.

Are you sick of it?


2 posted on 06/28/2015 11:12:43 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Wrong.

Concealed carry would have to be found to be a “fundamental right”. It hasn’t been.


3 posted on 06/28/2015 11:13:18 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: FreeAtlanta

“We have a kangaroo court running the nation. The laws are what they say they are. They don’t have to follow logic or precedence. Are you sick of it?”

What? Our 9 unelected, unaccountable political hacks in black muumuus?

LOL


4 posted on 06/28/2015 11:25:31 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

This article is wishful thinking. Regardless, there are two things to understand going forward.

One, patriots will not surrender their rights to keep and bear arms WITHOUT a Supreme Court decree requiring it.

Two, patriots will not surrender their rights to keep and bear arms WITH a Supreme Court decree requiring it.


5 posted on 06/28/2015 11:26:42 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: RKBA Democrat

Yeah, good luck with that.


6 posted on 06/28/2015 11:30:15 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: RIghtwardHo

If one requires a ‘license’ to perform an activity, it is not a right but a privilege as true rights require no license. A privilege can be altered at will by whatever prevailing powers exist. Hence by us allowing ‘marriage licensure’ the state is able to dictate rules and concepts.


7 posted on 06/28/2015 11:40:36 AM PDT by yadent
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To: RKBA Democrat

I actually read through the opinion and dissents looking for reference to this when it first came out, because I thought it was a logical extension of the “logic” of the ruling itself.


8 posted on 06/28/2015 12:32:38 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: RIghtwardHo

You don’t want it to be a fundamental right, fundamental by definition, a legal definition is one that allows it to be classified further, down the road, into a need only, or need to be justified...

It is, and will always be an inalienable right, never waiver from that, it is a right, not a privilege...

An inalienable right is one granted by an authority higher than ANY government instituted among men...


9 posted on 06/28/2015 12:55:00 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: RKBA Democrat

At this point with the US supreme court doing things outside of their authority WHY are you concerned with anything they say? After saying poofs and carpet layers have the right to marry it is clear that the blue gum and his fellow cronies are prodding the American citizenry to revolt in order to impose martial law...as far as carrying WHY REGISTER ANY FIREARM?....those are the first sought out. You are a fool to abide by anything that imposes upon any GOD given right ....who cares what any humanist/godless person thinks?...I am fatigued trying to play by the legislative rules...our rino’s and democrats don’t abide by anything except rules made to the highest bidder...F___ ‘em ...ride this garbage out and see what 2016 gets us ...if not a conservative then start cleansing the bowels of our nation D.C. til then do what is in your best interests....law no longer applies (tell me I’m wrong)


10 posted on 06/28/2015 1:27:51 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: RKBA Democrat

What about open carry reciprocity?


11 posted on 06/28/2015 2:34:52 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: RIghtwardHo

The right to bear arms is in the Bill of Rights. It doesn’t get much more fundamental than that.


12 posted on 06/28/2015 3:14:37 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: jeffersondem
One, patriots will not surrender their rights to keep and bear arms WITHOUT a Supreme Court decree requiring it.

Two, patriots will not surrender their rights to keep and bear arms WITH a Supreme Court decree requiring it.

Post of the day.

13 posted on 06/28/2015 3:16:24 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Yes, sick of kangaroo courts.


14 posted on 06/28/2015 8:14:05 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: generally

But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it can’t be regulated as in not permitting concealed carry. There is no fundamental right that is a “right” at all times, i.e. the oft used “you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater”, libel, slander, .. the list goes on on every fundamental right.

So I am not arguing the right may not be “there” but the 2nd says absolutely nothing about conceal carry and the right to bear arms CAN be restricted like any Constitutional right. The question is just how much.

So that brings me back to ... SCOTUS will have to find that “conceal carry” is a fundamental right bestowed by the 2nd Amendment before “full faith and credit” applies.


15 posted on 06/29/2015 8:24:00 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RKBA Democrat; sickoflibs; NFHale; OneWingedShark
it would seem that these states and the District must honor my concealed carry permit, or violate my constitutional rights under the 14th and Second Amendment.

good luck with that Bob...'it would seem' that the "precedent" has already been established for decades with the driving *priviledge* being honored across the land, yet the 2A Right has still been relentlessly neutered in socialist republics of the USSA...

as i told a friend last night, 'precedent' only works one way, against freedom...

16 posted on 06/29/2015 8:33:16 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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