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REPUBLICANS CAVE LEFT AGAIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA WITH 'CONSERVATIVE MEDIA' SPINNING THE WITCH HUNT
6/23/2015 | Self

Posted on 06/23/2015 4:41:29 AM PDT by Nextrush

"The Confederate Flag Is The Legacy Of Democrats, Not Republicans" was the word put out by Rush Limbaugh just hours before Republican Governor Nikki Haley appeared with Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott to call for removal of the Confederate Flag from the Statehouse grounds in Columbia, SC.

Atlanta talk show host Erick Erickson of RedState.com also came out for flag removal.

Posters here on FR have amplified their views. Much of the spin again associates Democrats with the Confederate Flag to justify the latest cave in to Leftist pressure.

But I remember one such Democrat from South Carolina, Strom Thurmond, who switched to Republican in 1964 and was a supporter of RIchard NixOn for President in 1968.

The switch of the white southern voter who once supported segregation from Democrat to Republican meant a Southern sweep for Nixon in 1972 and Reagan in 1984 and more sweeps for the GOP beyond that in congressional races.

Its led to GOP control of southern state legislatures as well.

Some Republican legislators in South Carolina have stepped up to the plate to oppose the Leftist campaign against the Confederate Flag.

Just because an insane mass murderer who attacked a church used a Confederate flag we have to suddenly put the flag into hiding.

An insane mass murderer famous in my childhood named Charles Manson used to display a poster of Jesus Christ.

This 21st Century hi tech witch hunt has a life of its own with attempts to spin the Republican leaders decision as a positive one and associate the Confederate flag with Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Bill Clinton.

Just like we had with the furor that caused Republican leaders to cave in two states (Indiana and Arkansas) this spring over First Amendment Religious Freedom protection for gay marriage objectors, corporate America has weighed in again.

Fortune 500 leader Wal-Mart is pulling Confederate flag merchandise from its stores.

I think people should be able to display the flags of their choice from Confederate to Gadsen to Rainbow without being demonized in an emotional frenzy.

What will be put on the chopping block next by the witch hunters?

I still remember how a Republican Senator, Pat Toomey, of my state (PA) caved in to Bloomberg and Schumer and the other gun grabbers over the mass murder at the Connecticut school a few years ago. Toomey came out in support of anti-Second Amendment legislation.

When I see Republican politicians and those media that support Republican politicians caving into the Left and giving us talking points about Democrats and the flag, it reminds me of the notion that there is no real difference between these two major parties.

One is 100 percent anti-Conservative, the other 95 percent anti-Conservative......Our Uniparty system bends to Leftists and Corporate elites and media figures associated with Conservatives also march in lockstep as we have seen in the last 24 hours.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: belongsinchat; confederateflag; dixie; nikkihaley; rushlimbaugh; secondamendment; thirdparty; vanity
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To: Nextrush

My school mascot and school team were known as the “Rebels.” Every one of our school yearbooks incorporated the imagery Confederate flag onto their covers. The mascot at games was a mustachioed, old Confederate soldier. During the first family vacation we ever had, to Six Flags Under Texas, one of the only things I got was a small Confederate battle flag, which I displayed in my room.

I was well into adulthood before I ever even encountered the notion that the flag somehow represented “racism,” which I viewed as an idiotic contention. It represented regional pride, and a certain ornery rebelliousness towards faraway masters. Whatever the case, I never actually flew the Confederate flag, nor put a bumper-sticker on my car or anything like that.

Seeing this media-fueled ‘wilding’ by the Left, and as usual, the GOP’s toadying surrender, fills me with so much unspeakable anger and disgust. The darned Confederate flag hasn’t even been a big fixture in my life for years. But right now, I see it as a more valid symbol of my life and my existence than the American flag, as America itself has come to squander everything that once made it so honorable. An America that votes for marxists like Obama, and embraces sick degeneracy like homo-marriage is no longer a country I can look up to or want to regard myself a part of. I haven’t flown the American flag for two years now, and I truthfully don’t ever expect to again. It’s time I should re-adopt the Confederate flag.


21 posted on 06/23/2015 5:46:26 AM PDT by greene66
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I see caving in to pressure here from the Republicans that will happen again perhaps when more people are killed somewhere on some other issue like the Second Amendment where Senator Toomey caved in after the school massacre in Connecticut.


22 posted on 06/23/2015 5:47:14 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

I agree that the caving is a problem....on any issue. Great article posted on FR today by Daniel Greenfield equating this caving to the “have you stopped beating your wife” question. He is spot on there. This rush to get out and “be reasonable” is so unseemly and ends up hurting.

My only ambivalence is on the flag issue itself.


23 posted on 06/23/2015 5:49:45 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Nextrush

The real history of the nation will be transmitted orally as it has been in all totalitarian nations. Unfortunately, few Americans know history, thanks to our Leftist bias in education. It will be up to the grandparents to tell it to their grandchildren before they die.


24 posted on 06/23/2015 5:56:19 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Nextrush
"I see caving in to pressure here from the Republicans that will happen again - - "

As July 3rd, 1863 is considered the high water mark for the Confederacy, June 2015 may become known as the high water mark for conservative 1st and 2nd amendment beliefs. The elites, with their institutional control of government, schools and media , now have the springboard to further their agenda.

25 posted on 06/23/2015 6:11:50 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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To: Nextrush

This is a political issue. The Republican candidates are always asked about the Confederate flag. Clinton and Gore both come from states that celebrate the Confederacy. Tennessee has a Nathan Bedford Forrest Day.

They were never asked any questions about this.


26 posted on 06/23/2015 6:24:14 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Nextrush

Who called for the US flag to come down in Colorado after Columbine? Its nothing more than the latest anti Southern hatred by the left and their media allies.


27 posted on 06/23/2015 6:24:55 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Nextrush

Of course! No backbone and it’s the flag that caused the little nut to go crazy! We all know that! /s


28 posted on 06/23/2015 6:29:13 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Nextrush

Beyond the normal race hustlers, the flag frenzy is about the Dims trying to find a way get blacks to turn out for Hillary at a rate close to what Obama got. Grievance politics is their specialty.

As usual, the Pubs are doing their best to alienate 10 white votes for every one black vote they fantasize about.

Romney showed them the way in 2012, so it’s natural he would bring his ‘expertise’ to bear again. He’s got lots of company, but there’s no substitute for hands on knowledge in how to lose an election.


29 posted on 06/23/2015 6:30:56 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: Nextrush
Pubbies could make good GEICO commercials:
30 posted on 06/23/2015 6:34:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 9YearLurker
I can't speak for North Carolina, but in Mississippi we voted on this issue, and some 60% of us voted to keep the flag. I don't believe we should have to hold another vote everytime some race-baiters want to stir up sh*t by rallying anti-whites and using the flag as their rallying point. That would be multiple times per year. Then if they ever won a vote, it would be definitive and eternal, just like Roe v Wade has been. "The issue is settled".
31 posted on 06/23/2015 6:36:03 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Altura Ct.
Too many whites kowtow to the race industry. Is there a line to be crossed or will they just keep backing up?

I know, right? Those white "quislings" should really wake up and demand white political representation. Got any words of encouragement for them? Maybe around 15 words (perhaps a little less)? I think you do....

32 posted on 06/23/2015 6:54:28 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Nextrush

“The switch of the white southern voter who once supported segregation from Democrat to Republican meant a Southern sweep for Nixon in 1972 and Reagan in 1984 and more sweeps for the GOP beyond that in congressional races”

Wow, with friends like you, who needs enemies. Nice of you to reinforce one of the Left’s favorite characterization of Conservatives as racists. I myself prefer the rise of the GOP in the South being a result of the movement of business to the Sun Belt due to air conditioning and Northern Liberal economics. A creation of a large managerial class in the South. Take Deliverance as an example. Jon Voigt and his companions represented the new GOP future, while the mountain men were the racist Democrat past. The new GOP South is dressed in khakis and golf shirts, it is not the overalls of the old racist South.


33 posted on 06/23/2015 7:12:07 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Nextrush

Strom Thurmond and Lester Maddox were the two racist democrats who became Republican. The other 8,000 racist demmocrat officeholders in the South stayed Democrat.


34 posted on 06/23/2015 7:21:07 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Intelligence begins with emotional acceptance of the consequences of oneÂ’s actions. Spengler)
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To: Nextrush
The flag was put on the capitol *dome* in 1961 by Democrat Fritz Hollings, as a defiant gesture against integration. A lot of people think the flag was flying since Reconstruction.

Not so. Then a Republican got the governorship and the flag was moved to a Confederate Memorial.

It's totally a Democrat racist flag--to be flying on the capitol grounds.

There is no reason for a Republican to waste one bit of effort trying to keep the flag on the capitol grounds. But I do fault the GOP for behaving as if it is a conservative issue!

35 posted on 06/23/2015 8:09:01 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Jeb the Bushwoman was out boasting about how he handled the issue in Florida—and I so wanted someone to say, “So, did you replace the battle flag with a Mexicn flag?”


36 posted on 06/23/2015 8:11:37 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: txrefugee
few Americans know history, thanks to our Leftist bias in education.

Few Americans know history because they aren't Americans. Their histories are from other countries.

-PJ

37 posted on 06/23/2015 8:24:34 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: GOPJ

Many local officials in the South like state legislators were Democrats in their youth and or made the party switch as elected officials in places like Southern state legislatures.

In the last 50 years there have been many party switches all across the Old Confederacy from Texas where Rick Perry was once a Dem all the way across to Virginia.


38 posted on 06/23/2015 10:12:01 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: gusty

I’m not in the propaganda business for either major political party.

JFK and RFK were courting racist segregationists as Democrat leaders in their time, trying to hold the party together after Kennedy’s narrow 1960 win over Nixon.

I’ve knocked on doors and talked to racist voters who were registered R to get their votes in primary elections.

Racists have been in both political parties and are to this day.

When the Clinton-Reno supporters came out onto the streets of Miami to counter the Cuban community over Elian Gonzalez the African-American leaders and their followers willingly joined in protest with whites who also resented the Cuban community and waved Confederate flags in protest.


39 posted on 06/23/2015 10:20:03 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush
I lived in the Jim Crow South.

ALMOST without exception racist democrats stayed democrats. The people who switched were the people who had moved from the North years before and were forced to become democrat because the South was a one party system.

At that time if you registered Republican you were throwing your vote away. Northerners felt they could vote for the least offensive democrat if they became democrats. Staying Republican while living in the deep South one party system (back then) meant every person you voted for lost.

Hollings was a racist democrat, so was Bull Conner, and George Wallace and KKK Bryd who ruled the Senate for decades. The press did NOT OUT democrat racists because many of them had been racist too. Yeah, most newspaper editors were racists in the South...people who switched on a dime. Bill Clinton's mentor was a racist... and BillandHillary had their little confederate battle flag campaign buttons. Jimmah Carter and his family were racists who switched when they realized the way the winds were blowing. I fear you've bought into democrat bullshit.

40 posted on 06/23/2015 10:30:06 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Intelligence begins with emotional acceptance of the consequences of oneÂ’s actions. Spengler)
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