Posted on 06/07/2015 9:12:22 AM PDT by redreno
Not as cut and dried as it seemed
I stand by my comment. There are and always will be POS cops that are more cop than perp. I have known both great and criminal cops. That does not change the fact that they are cops and as a society, we agree to abide by their collective authority.
If we choose to NOT do that, we take our chances in two ways. One, by being shot to death in the spot and two, by becoming Baltimorians ourselves.
That said, I’m the last guy that is going to lick a jackboot. But the time to get pissy with a cop isn’t when he’s in the middle of a possible arrest, whether you feel he’s in the wrong, violating constitutional rights or not. Unless you wanna go all the way with it. Personally my life is worth more than looking like a big man at a pool party that the article states was less than above board to begin with.
Officer Jackboot can and should be humiliated, fired, jailed, shunned and fined through the teeth later. But we can’t very well huff and puff about ferals and the breakdown of law when we ourselves support those causing the problem in the first place.
The cop slammed an innocent girl to the ground, and then when her friends tried to help her, he pulled a gun on them. He should be fired.
I agree with you. It does seem like a lot of people here didn’t actually watch the video. I think it’s horrible that so many people here are defending the cop.
Excellent post!
My granddaughter was at the pool that afternoon. This was a rowdy bunch of thugs who don’t live in the subdivision who took over the pool area and were threatening and intimidating the residents. I don’t know if the cop did entirely the right thing or not, but there is definitely another side to the story. These were not ‘sweet innocent children’ by any means, and they tried to bully the security and cops like they did the residents. When it didn’t work, they cried police brutality.
Yet a knee-jerk reaction is that somehow, they are one and the same. It is a huge disconnect.
The cop in that video was part of the problem. The good kids that were there, and obviously (if you watch the video) there were a lot of them (addressing the cops as "sir" and cooperating with reasonable instructions - asking people to leave such a scene is NOT reasonable and freedom-minded independent people KNOW this, including American teens; what is reasonable is to ask them to stand out of the way), now know for certain sure that at least one cop is as worthy of contempt and scorn as the bad thug kids, maybe worse because he was an adult in authority, yet completely lost all control and spoke to kids using language that was way, way out of line.
"It's the only language these kids seem to understand," as I've seen many who try to justify his behavior, is (no pun intended!) a wholesale cop-out. If an adult has to use the F word and the GD word in order to "communicate" with teens, then the adult is only kidding himself if he thinks those kids will respect him for it.
Thank you. :^)
I would hate even more to be a teenager nowadays.
I would hate to be a teenager thug who crashed (i.e. for those of you in Rio Linda not having been uninvited) a pool party at a private community pool in TX with a bunch of her thug friends who heard about it on Twitter and FB after one of her other thug friends posted the flash mob pool party crashing invite; climbing fences to get in because they had not been invited by a resident, and unlike some of the other black kids who had been invited and those of the and the black residents of the community who had every right to be there, but who were NOT engaging in criminal activity like openly drinking, smoking weed and harassing and assaulting people including security guards, damaging property, and, well
. acting like thugs and who were as a result of not acting like thugs, were not hassled by the man.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/07/video-emerges-of-violence-at-innocent-pool-party-in-mckinney-texas/
One resident, Benet Embry, a black man, posted on Facebook about the events leading up to the police call. Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all, Embry wrote. A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE. WE have other issues that NEED our attention other (than) flights of made up make believe causes.
In another post he is critical of media coverage of the incident. Ive never seen such irresponsible reporting and miss management of media resources in my life, he said.
Another McKinney resident, Bryan Gestner, posted on Facebook, This was a Twitter party that turned into a mob event. Jumping pool fence. Assaulting 2 security guards, attacking a mother with three little girls. The video doesnt show everything. He continued saying the kids were drinking and smoking weed and they would not listen to any of the adults around the pool.
This isnt about race, he continued. This is about outside kids invading our neighborhood and had no respect for authority or the residents here. I have a target on my back now and I have been threatened by these punks that they are gonna shoot up my house when all I did was try to control the mob and actually tended to the girl and the boy that had a bloody lip.
Yall dont know the whole story, Gestner continued. I commend the officer for handling this situation.
Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were kicking in peoples front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.
And I cant help but notice that Black Barbie in the Pink Bikini who got taken down and handcuffed by the bad policeman, looks an awful lot like the girl in the pink bikini who was also filmed, before the cops showed up, assaulting a woman.
Allegedly this nice innocent teenager who was, even as she had not been invited, was only there to swim, work on her tan and celebrate the end of the school year (yea, like I have to really wonder what school she attended and how often she ever bothered showing up) became enraged because someone, supposedly the woman she was assaulting, had the audacity to say something so un-PC as go back to your section 8 housing development and swim in your damn own pool. And according to how these teenager thugs were behaving, if it had been my community pool, I doubt I would have said anything nearly so nice. YMMV.
What I referred to was what can be seen and heard in the 7-minute video. In which one of the cops had clearly flipped his lid and lost control.
I would hate to be a teen today because of:
a) thug teens allowed to be thugs based on the color of their skin -- which harmed EVERYONE involved, including the black teens who lived in the community
b) encouragement at an especially vulnerable and ignorant age to "explore" sexuality, including transgender and homosexuality
c) piss-poor education system.
Among other things.
My criticisms here have been of the deranged and hysterical police officer in that video who made a bad situation worse. I saw a lot of what looked like "nice, innocent teenagers" of all colors in the video at the top of this thread. Did you take the time to actually watch it?
As it happens, to me that particular girl looked neither nice nor innocent (! ;^), but she also didn't look like a bruiser who was going be able to physically resist that officer very much, yet just the same, he man-handled her as if she presented the physical threat of a Samoan bruiser. Compare it, if you will, to the way you can see on the video that the other officers handled the boys.
That you interpret my pointing out that the one officer was clearly out of line as being equal to claiming that the girl who clearly mouthed-off to a cop who had moments earlier been yelling at teens with "F**ck'in" this and "G-ddamned" that, was "a nice innocent teenager," is your mistake.
I watched the video. Both of them. Did you? I saw a cop trying to instill order over a bunch of thugs running amok, the thugs who were causing all the trouble, not obeying police orders and while he was detaining one of them, a bunch of other thugs approached him from behind and he did the right thing IMO. I guess in your opinion, he should have stood down and given them more space to destroy like Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake did during the riots in Baltimore.
Texas resident: Cop was right, deserves a medal
many of whom can he heard addressing him and other cops in this video respectfully as "sir."
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