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To: odds
I fail to see how providing non-lethal aid to people being killed by Russian soldiers is saber rattling, which is all we've done so far. Nor do I see how supporting human liberty is saber rattling. The alternative, turning a blind eye, holds even more risk for world peace.

If the Russian people still desire to be a nation of drunks who die young and are ruled by a small clique of money-grubbing thugs, then they'll be the ones who suffer the consequences even if they conquer Ukraine.

THE DAILY MAIL, the last time I checked, is a privately owned paper; it's not the Queen's propaganda machine. I believe most Brits are smart enough to figure out the downscale news media among their flourishing press organs from the highbrow papers. I also believe the UK has a robust and politically divergent number of newpapers that that they should be proud of. I do not think the situation is the same in Russia and neither does anyone with any knowledge of their media. It is sophomoric false equivalency to compare what THE DAILY MAIL writes to what the Putin controlled RUSSIA TODAY does. It's the type of thing the Left liked to do during the Cold War.

28 posted on 05/07/2015 4:08:58 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Like I said before, if we’re going to ‘help’ Ukraine we’ve to be there for the long run, non-lethal or otherwise. Beyond Obama or any other administration.

I say the above, because we’ve a habit of saying, it wasn’t what was planned. Like in Iraq, George W. Bush had a great plan and did well. But he must have known his plan couldn’t be limited to his max. 8 yrs of presidency, when his admin had control. It needed continuity. Next admin, may or may not follow what previous admin started. We’ve to be in Ukraine for the long run, following Obama.

Nothing to do with Queen’s propaganda. Like I said before, every single newspaper in the UK picked up on Daily Mail story, and published it. Many of the most vocal ones questioning and criticizing Daily Mail’s misleading piece were Brits themselves. Yes, the Brits are well aware, and happily there is still freedom of speech in the UK. But propaganda remains propaganda on both sides of the line.


31 posted on 05/07/2015 4:29:53 AM PDT by odds
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