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The GOP’s destructive Vietnam mythology: How the right’s self-glorifying delusions led to...
Salon ^ | May 2, 2015 | Peter Birkenhead is a writer living in Washington, D.C.

Posted on 05/02/2015 11:42:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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David Horowitz - June 2000 "............If others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as a "vanguard." You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite, whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the promised horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the vanguard of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a social redeemer. To feel anointed. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in their wake. That is why they don't care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than all the injustices they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their "mistakes." That is why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth.

If you were active in the so-called "peace" movement or in the radical wing of the civil rights causes, why would you tell the truth? Why would you tell people that no, you weren't really a "peace activist," except in the sense that you were against America's war. Why would you draw attention to the fact that while you called yourselves "peace activists," you didn't oppose the Communists' war, and were gratified when America's enemies won?

What you were really against was not war at all, but American "imperialism" and American capitalism. What you truly hated was America's democracy, which you knew to be a "sham" because it was controlled by money in the end. That's why you wanted to "Bring the Troops Home," as your slogan said. Because if America's troops came home, America would lose and the Communists would win. And the progressive future would be one step closer.

But you never had the honesty—then or now—to admit that. You told the lie then to maintain your influence and increase your power to do good (as only the Chosen can). And you keep on telling the lie for the same reason.

Why would you admit that, despite your tactical support for civil rights, you weren't really committed to civil rights as Americans understand rights? What you really wanted was to overthrow the very Constitution that guaranteed those rights, based as it is on private property and the individual—both of which you despise.

It is because America is a democracy and the people endorse it, that the left's anti-American, but "progressive" agendas can only be achieved by deceiving the people. This is the cross the left has to bear: The better world is only achievable by lying to the very people they propose to redeem.

Despite the homage contemporary leftists pay to post-modernist conceits, despite their belated and half-hearted display of critical sentiment towards Communist regimes, they are very much the ideological heirs of Stalinist progressives, who supported the greatest mass murders in human history, but who remember themselves as civil libertarian opponents of McCarthy and victims of a political witch-hunt. (Only the dialectically gifted can even begin to follow the logic involved.)

To appreciate the continuity of communism in the mentality of the left, consider how many recent Hollywood promotions of the industry Reds and how many academic apologies for Stalinist crimes (in fact, the vast majority of recent academic texts on the subject) have been premised on the Machiavellian calculations and Hegelian sophistries I have just described.

Naturally, today's leftists are smart enough to distance themselves from Soviet Communism. But the Soviet dictator Nikita Khrushchev was already a critic of Stalin forty years ago. Did his concessions make him less of a Communist? Or more?............."

1 posted on 05/02/2015 11:42:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Paul Kengor - May 2, 2015: How right was Joe McCarthy?

"My April 5 column for the Trib, “Lies, damned lies & Hollywood communists,” elicited some strong reaction, especially regarding Joe McCarthy, who, despite perceptions to the contrary, did not lead the investigation of communism in Hollywood.

That investigation was spearheaded by the House Committee on Un-American Activities (McCarthy was a senator), which was mostly chaired by anti-communist Democrats, including a remarkable Pennsylvania congressman named Francis Walter. In fact, the committee's first and last heads were Democrats: Martin Dies (Texas) and Richard Ichord (Missouri).

There is much history there. But I'd like to focus on Joe McCarthy.

“McCarthy ruined many careers and many lives,” one Trib reader emailed me. “His name is a disgrace to America and to the United States Senate. He was not right. ... McCarthy was a despicable human being.”

To be sure, there is no way that I can here, with very limited words, adequately convince either side that Joe McCarthy was right or wrong. I have colleagues I respect on both sides. My general judgment is that McCarthy certainly had failings, clearly was not always right, but also — we've learned — was much more right than his detractors ever imagined.

Communist Party USA, which secretly and illegally received an annual subsidy from Moscow, was not just another political party. Its members were committed to overthrowing the U.S. government and replacing it with a “Soviet America.” Congress, of course, is constitutionally tasked with investigating domestic threats. For elected Democrats and Republicans to not do so would violate their sworn oaths — to America. Joe McCarthy was one of them.

The question, however, is how McCarthy then proceeded in that task.........."

2 posted on 05/02/2015 11:45:21 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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It’s always great to read some Salon scribbler using leftwing mythology to denounce rightwing mythology.

3 posted on 05/02/2015 11:57:34 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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Oct 2011: [Obama's] OSTP [Science and Technology] Director [Holdren] Under Fire for China Talks "WASHINGTON — A U.S. lawmaker has asked Attorney General Eric Holder to take action against the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), John Holdren, for engaging Chinese officials in discussions about scientific and technical cooperation in violation of a recently enacted law barring such bilateral exchanges.

“As attorney general, it is your responsibility to ensure that the nation’s laws are upheld,” Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.) wrote in an Oct. 13 letter. He requested that the Justice Department hold the OSTP director “to full account” for violating a provision Wolf added to a spending bill enacted in April barring OSTP and NASA from engaging with China. In May, Holdren participated in meetings in Washington between U.S. and Chinese officials aimed in part at enabling scientific cooperation between the two nations.

Acting at Wolf’s request, the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) examined Holdren’s participation in the May U.S.-China Dialogue on Innovation Policy and the U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue, and concluded his actions violated the prohibition. The GAO also concluded that Holdren and OSTP violated the Anti-Deficiency Act since the prohibition — detailed in section 1340 of the Department of Defense and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act of 2011 — bars the use of OSTP funds for bilateral activities with China. The Anti-Deficiency Act makes it illegal for federal agencies to spend funds that have not been appropriated by Congress.".................


Feb 2015: Climate scientist being investigated by Congress for not believing in global warming enough "Roger Pielke, a professor of environmental studies at the University of Colorado, and six others are under investigation by Congress regarding testimony they've given on the subject of climate change.

Pielke, a believer in man-caused global warming, can't quite figure out why he's the object of a witch hunt.

...................... What am I accused of that prompts being investigated? Here is my crime:

Prof. Roger Pielke, Jr., at CU’s Center for Science and Technology Policy Research has testified numerous times before the U.S. Congress on climate change and its economic impacts. His 2013 Senate testimony featured the claim, often repeated, that it is “incorrect to associate the increasing costs of disasters with the emission of greenhouse gases.”

The letter goes on to note that John Holdren, President Obama’s science advisor, “has highlighted what he believes were serious misstatements by Prof. Pielke.”....

....Pielke's transgression is that he isn't hysterical enough about climate change. Unless you subscribe to the belief that runaway global warming is going to destroy us all - tomorrow - your views are suspect and you can safely be called a "denier." Pielke has dropped all research into climate change - a victory for the anti-science forces on the left. That's one less honest scientist to rebut the constant drumbeat of false information coming from climate change advocates."

4 posted on 05/03/2015 12:00:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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When the U.S. pulled out of S. Vietnam and Ted Kennedy led legislation to stop supporting them, the N. Vietnamese moved down and slaughtered over 1 million of them. That gave the Khmer Rouge everything they needed to kill even more. Democrats never batted an eye, as long as they couldn’t blame the deaths on American intervention.

5 posted on 05/03/2015 12:08:08 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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The real history of the Vietnam era is too valuable to ignore .

The author should take his own advice. The reason the "GOP" (who are anything but "right" at the moment) insists on a narrative of betrayal is because it happens to accord with historical fact.

The United States won the war, that is, if one considers that our strategic objective was to stop the incursions from the north and the domestic terrorism. This we did. On 27 January 1973, the Paris Peace Accords kicked in and we withdrew from Vietnam with the South Vietnamese government and its territory intact.

In 1975 the North ran armored divisions down Highway 1 in what amounted to a blitzkrieg. The sense of betrayal that is part of what the author considers a false narrative had nothing false about it - Congress, deeply influenced by the "antiwar" (if only it really were) movement, declined to fund air support for the South Vietnamese defenders. End of story. And so now the U.S. "lost" the war although no troops or air assets were even in country, this according to a treaty we had negotiated. Score two for that sense of betrayal.

The author is regurgitating all the old talking points of the triumphant Left but there is that curious lacuna between the POW camps emptying of U.S. occupants and them filling again with South Vietnamese occupants, a Vietnamese Gulag that is also carefully ignored by the Left, for its adherents insisted that such a thing would never happen and resolutely ignored it when it did. Those very few honest figures on the Left such as Joan Baez who protested were silenced and shunned.

One simply cannot take seriously an author who insists on historical verisimilitude and then promptly ignores it. He need not take my word for it. He can ask the Vietnamese.

6 posted on 05/03/2015 12:09:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yet another seething Salon idiot on parade.

7 posted on 05/03/2015 12:10:40 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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The pressure is on as we all know to get universal agreement to global warming/climate change. The Pope is next to weigh in in June ....and I've seen enough of the preliminary to say he's full court ‘IN’. So it's not surprising the pressures been put on any who would not comply with the movement to basically tax the world for these carbon credits etc. Which is at the root of all this.

But I cannot believe whoever does the strong-arming to any is going to be prosecuted or even brought to much light as this beast continues to gather speed. Holder, and any others are carefully planned on when and how they will perform in this, and how close or not til the end of their service, and or even those who will have their positions changed in order to protect them.

The degree of corruption throughout our nation is pretty much at every level of Governance....I'm not sure this tide is going to be stopped soon enough, if it can be at all. The powers behind it is tremendous and often hidden behind what's being otherwise presented. By the time these people are exposed....the beast that Global Warming is has already arrived at the next stop...often way down the road.

8 posted on 05/03/2015 12:15:20 AM PDT by caww
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What the hell is THIS???!!!

Has the Left recognized that they are, at long last, losing? And, as a consequence, decided to go back and fight the Viet Nam War all over again?

9 posted on 05/03/2015 12:23:42 AM PDT by okie01 (ejudicial investment against the cops.l territory)
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John F. Kennedy’s legacy, the Vietnam War, unionized government, and the 1965 Immigration Act (passed in his honor, since it was his lifetime goal).

All that and more, creating the 1960s and this immigration death.

If only Eisenhower’s Veep had won that 1960 election, America would still exist.

10 posted on 05/03/2015 12:23:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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Birkenhead, the author of this piece, is an interesting case. He is a red-diaper baby, son of “new left” 1960s activists. His dad was apparently insane and abused everyone. Birkenhead wrote a book about it (of course). Look him up, he is a character.
Its not difficult to see, in his writing, which is full of arrogant assertions, unmitigated contempt, besides much else, someone loaded with personality problems, a man who wasn’t raised right.

11 posted on 05/03/2015 12:30:17 AM PDT by buwaya
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I expect comrade dictator obama to eventually acquire as much if not more notoriety than McCarthy did, except obama is the embodiment of the evil that McCarthy warned us about.

12 posted on 05/03/2015 12:30:25 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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wasn’t the US intervention in Vietnam begun by a Democrat regime?????

13 posted on 05/03/2015 12:37:41 AM PDT by RginTN
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A big eye opener for many Americans was watching the media and the left do two things, one, instantly lose interest in Vietnam when the Cambodian death camps and the Vietnam executions and reeducation camps started, and that the media suddenly didn’t like some immigrants for the first time, the “Boat People”, until the Vietnamese started fleeing Vietnam by the millions, refugees and immigrants were all so special to the American left, even Eastern Europeans fleeing the communists were tolerated, but they didn’t like the “boat people”.

14 posted on 05/03/2015 12:44:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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Peter Birkenhead is a writer living in Washington, D.C. …
He also wrote a book back in 2010 about “growing up with an emotionally abusive father” as he puts it.
15 posted on 05/03/2015 12:56:14 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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No offense, but losing what?

As far as the Vietnam war, there are two historical images that encapsulate it in American history: Napalm and Saigon.

I have no doubt that the current conflicts will also be misrepresented by the media and academia in the future. It’s obvious how the corporate-military complex went to war against indigenous peoples who were only protesting the destruction of their unique culture based on the religion of peace. After our horrific destruction of their superb tribal communities, Obama saved the world by ushering in the wonderful Arab Spring that assured peace in our time (after rolling back the evil colonial influence of the US and implementing the needed purge of those evil, bigoted Christians and any other obstreperously intolerant peoples).

16 posted on 05/03/2015 12:58:58 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (GOP delenda est!)
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As far as McCarthy goes, the fellow who wrote The Naked Communist pretty much backs up Joe’s every action with a pile of facts, not least among them being the 45 Goals of Communists for the USA.
17 posted on 05/03/2015 12:59:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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I see the leftists are still spitting on the Vietnam Vets.

18 posted on 05/03/2015 1:01:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Oh, yeah. A voluntary internal aWe may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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You are correct. I'll note that John P. Holdren (Obama's long-standing Science and Technology Adviser) was listed as one of "Creation Care's" Advisers [the entire site has been deactivated.

Green Faith may be the new site.

For 50 years, Holdren has called and worked for the de-development of the United States.

Washington Post, April 30, 2015: Pope Francis has given the climate movement just what it needed — faith

"This week — and it still feels strange to write this — the major climate change news story came out of the Vatican.

There, at the center of global Catholicism, church leaders joined with politicians, scientists and economists to draft a statement declaring not only that climate change is a “scientific reality” but also that there’s a moral and religious responsibility to do something about it. And an even more powerful statement is expected soon from Pope Francis himself, who is slated to release a major papal encyclical on the environment this summer.

All of this is enough to make environmentalists, members of a traditionally secular movement, nearly rhapsodic. After a history of being rather too technocratic and wonky, there seems to be a growing realization in green circles about the importance of an alliance with the world of faith.

This has been a long time coming. The effort to mobilize religious believers to worry about climate as part of a broader, biblically grounded “creation care” mandate has a long history (though it has traditionally focused more on evangelicals than Catholics). Books have been written about it, and one of its major spokespeople — Katharine Hayhoe, an evangelical climate scientist at Texas Tech University — was named one of Time magazine’s 100 most influential people last year.............

Another part of the moral message, as Yale Divinity School professor Teresa Berger told me recently, may involve “the pope condemning sins of exploiting the Earth.”


So it has been long coming, but pope watchers in the environmental world are watching now for very good reason. They know this is the most powerful chance in a long time to make people care, and to create political will."


Nov 2009: Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren involved in unwinding “Climategate” scandal

"......Indeed, Holdren’s emails show how sincere scientists would be made into raw “entertainment”. How the deed was done

“A perfect person and opportunity appeared. On 16th October 2003 Michael Mann, infamous for his lead in the ‘hockey stick’ that dominated the 2001 IPCC Report, sent an email to people involved in the CRU scandal; “

Dear All,

Thought you would be interested in this exchange, which John Holdren of Harvard has been kind enough to pass along…” At the time Holdren was Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy & Director, Program in Science, Technology, & Public Policy, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, John F. Kennedy School of Government. (Editor’s Note: He is now Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology—informally known as the United States Science Czar. )

““In an email on October16, 2003 from John Holdren to Michael Mann and Tom Wigley we are told:

”“I’m forwarding for your entertainment an exchange that followed from my being quoted in the Harvard Crimson to the effect that you and your colleagues are right and my “Harvard” colleagues Soon and Baliunas are wrong about what the evidence shows concerning surface temperatures over the past millennium. The cover note to faculty and postdocs in a regular Wednesday breakfast discussion group on environmental science and public policy in Harvard’s Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences is more or less self-explanatory.”

The Wednesday Breakfast Group

“This is what Holdren sent to the Wednesday Breakfast group.

“I append here an e-mail correspondence I have engaged in over the past few days trying to educate a Soon/Baliunas supporter who originally wrote to me asking how I could think that Soon and Baliunas are wrong and Mann et al. are right (a view attributed to me, correctly, in the Harvard Crimson). This individual apparently runs a web site on which he had been touting the Soon/Baliunas position.”

“The exchange Holdren refers to is a challenge by Nick Schulz editor of Tech Central Station (TCS). On August 9, 2003 Schulz wrote;

“In a recent Crimson story on the work of Soon and Baliunas, who have written for my website [1, you are quoted as saying: My impression is that the critics are right. It s unfortunate that so much attention is paid to a flawed analysis, but that’s what happens when something happens to support the political climate in Washington. Do you feel the same way about the work of Mann et. al.? If not why not?”

“Holdren provides lengthy responses on October 13, 14, and 16 but comments fail to answer Schulz’s questions. After the first response Schulz replies, “I guess my problem concerns what lawyers call the burden of proof. The burden weighs heavily, much more heavily, given the claims on Mann than it does on Soon/Baliunas. Would you agree?” Of course, Holdren doesn’t agree. He replies, “But, in practice, burden of proof is an evolving thing-it evolves as the amount of evidence relevant to a particular proposition grows.”

No it doesn’t evolve; it is either on one side or the other. This argument is in line with what has happened with AGW. He then demonstrates his lack of understanding of science and climate science by opting for Mann and his hockey stick over Soon and Baliunas. His entire defense and position devolves to a political position. His attempt to belittle Soon and Baliunas in front of colleagues is a measure of the man’s blindness and political opportunism that pervades everything he says or does.

“Schulz provides a solid summary when he writes, “I’ll close by saying I’m willing to admit that, as someone lacking a PhD, I could be punching above my weight. But I will ask you a different but related question. How much hope is there for reaching reasonable public policy decisions that affect the lives of millions if the science upon which those decisions must be made is said to be by definition beyond the reach of those people?”

“We now know it was deliberately placed beyond the reach of the people by the group that he used to ridicule Soon and Baliunas. Holdren was blinded by his political views, which as his record shows are frightening. One web site synthesizes his position on over-population as follows, “Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A “Planetary Regime” with the power of life and death over American citizens.”

"Holdren has a long history of seeking total government control. He was involved in the Club of Rome providing Paul Ehrlich with the scientific data in his bet with Julian Simon. Ehrlich lost the bet. Holdren’s behavior in this sorry episode with Soon and Baliunas is too true to form and shows the leopard never changes his spots,” Ball concludes.

Meanwhile, even with an AWOL mainstream media, the Climategate snakes continue to slither out from under the rocks....."

19 posted on 05/03/2015 1:02:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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25 years and counting" Society of Environmental Journalists ".....The Society of Environmental Journalists was founded in 1990 by a small group of award-winning journalists, including reporters, editors, and producers working for The Philadelphia Inquirer, USA Today, Turner Broadcasting, Minnesota Public Radio, and National Geographic. Today, SEJ's membership includes more than 1,200 journalists and academics working in every type of news media in the United States, Canada, Mexico and 27 other countries.

SEJ's reputation for excellence, service, and integrity has been built upon annual conferences hosted by distinguished universities, scores of regional events, unique publications, on-line services, in-the-newsroom training sessions, and an extensive membership network.

As a 501(c)3 non-profit educational organization, SEJ provides educational opportunities and vital support to journalists of all media who face the challenging responsibility of covering complex environmental issues.."

Vision and Mission

20 posted on 05/03/2015 1:23:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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