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Germanwings Co-Pilot Deliberately Crashed Plane, Says Prosecutor
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 26, 2015 | Robert Wall and Inti Landauro

Posted on 03/26/2015 5:21:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525 appears to have deliberately crashed the plane after he was left alone in the cockpit, according to a French prosecutor.

The captain was intentionally locked outside minutes before the A320 crashed into an alpine mountain ridge, French Prosecutor Brice Robin said Thursday. Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, a 28-year-old German national, was silent throughout the plane’s descent and was alive at the point of impact, according to the prosecutor.

Mr. Robin’s conclusions are drawn from the plane’s cockpit voice recorder, recovered at the crash site in the French Alps late Tuesday and analyzed by French accident investigators on Wednesday.

The recording contains screams believed to be from passengers, once they recognized the plane was crashing.

Investigators are now exploring why Flight 9525 went into its unauthorized descent from its 38,000-foot cruising altitude with one crew member absent. The descent led to the crash about 10 minutes later.

French air accident investigators said on Wednesday they extracted information from the jet’s cockpit voice recorder. The recording contained voices and other sounds, said Rémi Jouty, director of France’s aviation accident investigation office, which is leading the probe. He added that there was no explanation yet for why the plane went down.

Germanwings, the low-fare unit of Deutsche Lufthansa AG, hasn’t disclosed the identity of the pilots....

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4u9525; 9525; germanwings; lubitz; planecrash; terrorism
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To: nikos1121
No it’s not far fetched. His FB shows the San Francisco bridge, some pretty gay looking gays etc.

Yeah. Something not quite normal there.

241 posted on 03/26/2015 9:49:37 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: nikos1121

No, I didn’t say my husband was a 28 year old when he had his stroke. If you read my post, you’ll see that I was replying to the theory that people can’t breathe normally while having a stroke. It has nothing to do with age, autopilot, or the lock on the door.

242 posted on 03/26/2015 9:50:56 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Where there is life, there is hope. - Terri Schiavo ~ Þ)
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To: nikos1121

He took it off autopilot and switched it to descent. But I’m assuming he must have had to plug in coordinates or a destination, or perhaps there’s some way of faking out the system so that the system is prepared for a controlled descent - and he simply didn’t control it but let it crash.

243 posted on 03/26/2015 9:51:31 AM PDT by livius
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To: Truth29

Yes, I understand theres’s more to this than how he was breathing. I was simply addressing that issue. I’m not suggesting that he couldn’t have deliberately crashed the plane. Only that normal breathing doesn’t necessarily rule out a stroke.

244 posted on 03/26/2015 9:54:15 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Where there is life, there is hope. - Terri Schiavo ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

The co-pilot was 28 years old.

245 posted on 03/26/2015 9:54:24 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Like I said, terrorism.

246 posted on 03/26/2015 9:54:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: concerned about politics

Please, every German or European I’ve ever met has wanted to go to SF and have their picture taken on or near the GG Bridge, and it has nothing to do with being gay.

Besides, even if he were gay, which I doubt, that wouldn’t make him crash the plane into the side of a mountain. Especially now, since gays practically rule the universe.

I think perhaps they should be looking more closely at the passengers. The American woman who was killed along with her college age daughter, for example, was an aviation intelligence analyst. There was also one Israeli aboard. So maybe he was setting out to kill a particular person.

247 posted on 03/26/2015 9:55:13 AM PDT by livius
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To: nikos1121

I’m not sure what I said that you didn’t follow, unless it was that I said pilot instead of copilot. If this was a planned jihad thing, maybe even to take out a nuke facility (why France scrambled the jets), some of the passengers may have been part of it. Just speculatin’.

248 posted on 03/26/2015 9:56:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: hoosiermama

Maybe some clues in this group. Media has been contacting member.


249 posted on 03/26/2015 9:57:32 AM PDT by maggief
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To: alphadoggie
You can bet I would notice immediately and have my cellphone out and calling the second I got a signal if we were descending 3,000 feet a minute in the middle of a flight with no notice from the flight deck as to why.

Exactly why I wondered that no one did or they aren't speaking of it.

250 posted on 03/26/2015 9:58:28 AM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris, Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: BykrBayb

My husband had a large stroke, and he breathed normally for the first few hours. He was panic stricken, but you couldn’t tell from his breathing.

Did he also keep activating the lock on the door, which unlocks after a few minutes if the correct code is used outside? This guy deliberately kept re-locking it.

251 posted on 03/26/2015 9:59:04 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: livius

That pic looks very close to the place we stayed at a few years ago in Sausalito, looks like Cavallo Point, the hotel that was converted from an old Army base.

252 posted on 03/26/2015 9:59:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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There’s a sonic a mile from my house. I’ll take that bet... :)

253 posted on 03/26/2015 10:00:29 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at
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To: kjam22

For some reason, as soon as they release a non-muslim name, everyone automatically rules out the possibility of terrorism. Apparently, the 100,000+ muslim converts in Germany — grown adults who have freely chosen to follow a religion of violent conquest with a fixation on aviation — are incapable of participating jihad.

That attitude makes converts incredibly valuable to the cause, IMO.

254 posted on 03/26/2015 10:05:19 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: nikos1121

Here is my take. IF he is not a radicalized Islamic fanatic then there is the possibility that this was his version of a temper tantrum. My hunch is that he has recently faced a rejection of some kind ( i.e. has been told no.) This could be either personally or professionally. His sexual orientation only matters in the extent that it would increase his sense of entitlement and thus increase his anger at the possible rejection. In essence it is the behavior of a two year old who is told no. How dare you tell me no.... I’ll show you.

Now I am not a psychologist, but I am a nurse and a mom to four kids who has traveled the world and met many different people along the way. It is my best guess.

255 posted on 03/26/2015 10:06:08 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Yaelle
You can drop your fighter interception theory.

From cruise altitude to impact was 8 minutes.

ATC noticed altitude deviation at about 6 minutes prior to impact.

Now allow 3-4 minutes for ATC to attempt contact with pilot and failing to do so...still very early to get highly alarmed, but I'll give it to you.

We are now at 2 - 3 minutes to impact....

Do you REALLY think it even remotely possible for an ATC facility to contact a military facility, convince them it's a real problem, and then for the military to react.....all of these things in 2 to 3 minutes?????

Military involvement is not feasible.

256 posted on 03/26/2015 10:06:56 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

Thanks. I guess that procedure will change for Europe.

Such a simple thing—might have saved 150 people.

257 posted on 03/26/2015 10:08:19 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: maggief

No clues that I could see. They are angry about the reporters descending on their town. They want the facebook group closed so that their names won’t be known and they won’t be approached.

258 posted on 03/26/2015 10:08:54 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: kjam22

That was certainly my first reaction as well- and it may be the case, however from what we know so far Lubitz never uttered a word after the pilot left the cockpit. The mindset of the psycho/jihadist compels him to mention allah at some stage of his terrorist strike. The very purpose of an attack is to give allah credit and strike terror into the hearts of non-believers.

I don’t know..there’s just something wrong with this.

259 posted on 03/26/2015 10:08:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I agree. I’m just not sure they would tell us if he was saying hail mohammad and death to america or not....

260 posted on 03/26/2015 10:10:30 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at
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