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Cue the Ted Cruz birthers… again [Once more with feeling: "Is he a natural born citizen?"]
Hotair ^ | 03/23/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/23/2015 8:36:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Now that Ted Cruz is officially in the Presidential race, you may rest assured that some of the same people who considered it an insult of titanic proportions to even ask to see President Obama’s birth certificate will be kicking off a similar conversation regarding the Texas Senator. Because, you know… he’s a gosh darn foreigner. For the few of you who may have missed it, Cruz was born in Canada. His father was from Cuba but his mother was a US citizen. As our colleague Guy Benson explained over a year ago, this one isn’t even a question.

For the uninitiated, the Texas Senator and conservative stalwart was born in Calgary, Canada — prompting some to insist that he’s not a “natural born citizen” and is therefore ineligible for the presidency. But there are only two types of citizens under the law: Natural born Americans (from birth), and naturalized Americans, who undergo the legal process of becoming a US citizen. Cruz never experienced the latter proceedings because he didn’t need to; his mother was born and raised in Delaware, rendering Cruz an American citizen from the moment of his birth abroad. Meanwhile, Cruz hasn’t even indicated if he has any designs to pursue a White House run — he’s got his hands full in the United States Senate. National Review has more on this preposterous “debate:”

Legal scholars are firm about Cruz’s eligibility. “Of course he’s eligible,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz tells National Review Online. “He’s a natural-born, not a naturalized, citizen.” Eugene Volokh, a professor at the UCLA School of Law and longtime friend of Cruz, agrees, saying the senator was “a citizen at birth, and thus a natural-born citizen — as opposed to a naturalized citizen, which I understand to mean someone who becomes a citizen after birth.” Federal law extends citizenship beyond those granted it by the 14th Amendment: It confers the privilege on all those born outside of the United States whose parents are both citizens, provided one of them has been “physically present” in the United States for any period of time, as well as all those born outside of the United States to at least one citizen parent who, after the age of 14, has resided in the United States for at least five years. Cruz’s mother, who was born and raised in Delaware, meets the latter requirement, so Cruz himself is undoubtedly an American citizen.

This was the same conversation that took place in 2007 and 2008 regarding John McCain. (McCain was born in Panama.) At the time, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama signed on to a simple resolution (along with the rest of the Senate) declaring that Senator McCain was “a natural born citizen” and eligible for the presidency. Given the current, rather toxic climate inside the beltway, I have to wonder if Ted Cruz will be offered the same consideration?

Perhaps a better question, though we’ve kicked this one around here before, is whether or not the Supreme Court will ever rule on this definition once and for all so we can just be done with it. True, we have some federal laws on the books which cover such things and they are frequently referenced when these discussions come up. And there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that this interpretation is any way unconstitutional.

And why would it be? The prevailing wisdom seems to at least have the benefit of sounding reasonable to the layman. Going back to the writing of the Constitution it was recognized that there are only two types of citizens recognized. You are either a citizen at the time of your birth or you become one later by going through the naturalization process. If we have to pick one of these two classes to be “natural born” it seems a rather easy choice.

But, yet again, that answer won’t be “permanent” (for lack of a better word) without the Supremes weighing in on it. And for that to happen, someone would have to challenge it. And that someone would have to have standing to even bring the challenge. You know… the more I think about it, maybe we should just stick with what we have now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; president; tedcruz
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1 posted on 03/23/2015 8:36:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If Obama was based on only his mother’s citizenship then so is Ted. Not saying Obama should have been allowed.


2 posted on 03/23/2015 8:38:08 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-serve-president-born-canada-111410935—politics.html


3 posted on 03/23/2015 8:39:13 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz is not a NBC


4 posted on 03/23/2015 8:40:51 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: SeekAndFind

Realistically, nobody is going to challenge his right to run for president.

There have been so many threads about this topic in the past. Ultimately you would need a court ruling on what “natural born citizen” means in the context of running for president. I’m just saying, realistically, nobody is going to challenge Cruz in court on this issue.

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it was a state, and still ran for president.

John McCain was born in Panama of American citizen parents.

In 1968, George Romney was a leading candidate for president in the GOP primaries. He was born in Mexico of American citizen parents.

I don’t think anyone ever challenged the right of any of the above to put their names on election ballots and run for president. Accordingly, I would be shocked if anyone would do anything to stop Ted Cruz from running due to his Canadian birth to an American citizen mother.


5 posted on 03/23/2015 8:41:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

After Precedent Obama, Ted Cruz is clearly as eligible he was. No one was interested in what Article II sec.1 meant when Obama ran. Whatever it used to mean, it now means as long as one has one citizen parent, one is eleigible.


6 posted on 03/23/2015 8:42:13 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: chicken head

Neither is the Kenyan currently in the White House. So what?


7 posted on 03/23/2015 8:42:27 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SeekAndFind
That ship has sailed.

If a Kenya-born Moslem can be POTUS, anybody can.

8 posted on 03/23/2015 8:42:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz addressed this at the Iowa summit with Sean Hannity. He said he is a citizen of the United States by birth, that is, at the time he was born he was a citizen. And then he said the Constitution requires that the president be a natural born citizen. Case closed.


9 posted on 03/23/2015 8:43:06 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: chicken head

“Cruz is not a NBC”

The laws are on his side that he is. Anyone who doubts it, is living in their own fantasy.


10 posted on 03/23/2015 8:45:17 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: reed13k

Yup. S.A.D-O-S. was too young to confer citizenship to BHO...(that Stanley Ann Dunham-Obola-Soetoro, &c.)


11 posted on 03/23/2015 8:48:02 AM PDT by __rvx86 (¡SI SE PUEDE! (Cruz 2016!))
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ll debate Cruz right after the libs get serious about Barack Hussein Obama’s complete lack of every record associated with his previous sordid and worthless life.

Talk to me right after that worthless SOP’s *ss is in jail.


12 posted on 03/23/2015 8:48:51 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: chicken head

When was this decided?


13 posted on 03/23/2015 8:48:52 AM PDT by CityCenter (Breathe, Focus, Execute)
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To: Da Coyote

SOP: Son of a Pornographer


14 posted on 03/23/2015 8:49:22 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: chicken head

Yes he is NBC. The Constitution recognized exactly two forms of citizen. NBC, and naturalized.


15 posted on 03/23/2015 8:50:14 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: chicken head

Yes he is.


16 posted on 03/23/2015 8:50:59 AM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushesh)
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To: SeekAndFind
Frankly, after Obama I'm not going to turn myself inside out worrying about whether my guy is complying with every jot & tittle of some newspaper's idea of how the law reads.

In fact, if we have to follow Obama's exact game plan to undo the damage that b*stard has done then so be it.

17 posted on 03/23/2015 8:51:11 AM PDT by skeeter
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Some of the reasons Cruz will not get 2016 traction.

9YearLurker INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: Immigration is Cruz’s weakness. He has said he would legalize illegals already here. That would be the end of any conservative majority in the country, and would extend the politics of Latin America north of Mexico.....Cruz sounds tough on immigration.....but is trying to mislead people about his ultimate position.

The specter of "creeping latinosim" shadows the American way of life. Americans know.... no matter what they say, in the end, Cruz's tribal politics prevails...it's always "them" against us.

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BTW, anybody know when "conservative Cruz" speak out about this?

Subversive Texas Textbooks---distributed nationwide--- vilify conservative groups;

Breitbart Texas | 09/10/2014 | Merrill Hope / FR Posted by Rusty0604

In 2006, uber-liberal "Texas Rising" stated its mission: "developing an emerging generation of social justice-minded, informed and engaged leaders is essential to the long-term health of our communities and the development of progressive public policy in Texas."

...a sneak peak at the preliminary Social Studies textbook found including distortions, omissions and half-truths all passing for accurate high school US history...

And there's this gem: "The radical right consists of groups that sometimes gather under the flag of militant anticommunism. Often known as reactionaries, they denounce most forms of government regulation, including progressive taxation and restrictions and industry.Examples of political groups on the radical right are the John Birch Society, the National States & Rights party, The Christian Crusade, and the Tea Party movement." (Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

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THIRD WORLD INFILTRATION College Board exams changed history answers... revisionist historians developed different answers to the question of what America’s story is about. From their perspective, at the heart of our country’s history—like the history of any other powerful nation—lies the pursuit of empire, of dominion over others. At its core, say the revisionists, America’s history is about our capacity for self-delusion, our endless attempts to justify raw power grabs with pretty fairy-tales about democracy. ....

NOTE WELL: This terrifying Third World revisionism is straight out of Third World textbooks---emphasizing the T/W effort to undermine US ntl security for the coming armed takeover.

The conniving T/W uses an ancient formula going back to Greco-Roman times---where savages, barbarians and thieves overrun a bountiful country lusting after its power and riches.

REFERENCE--- Some 10 years back, Texas schools started used Mexican textbooks for their backward illiterate Spanish-speaking students. Texas textbooks advocated the Mexican perspective including:

<><> anti-white, anti-capitalist anti-USA viewpoints;

<><> Mexican textbooks falsified US history,

<><> proselytized blood-thirsty La Raza savagery;

<><> using teaching as brainwashing;

<><> inculcating violent separatist, latino supremacy idealogy.

18 posted on 03/23/2015 8:51:29 AM PDT by Liz
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To: CityCenter

I like cruz, alot.. but he wasn’t born here.. Right?


19 posted on 03/23/2015 8:51:43 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: SeekAndFind
Cue the Ted Cruz birthers… again [Once more with feeling: "Is he a natural born citizen?"]

More hot air?
Another opportunity to request a user "site ignore" button on Free Republic.

In my private universe, and I am convinced I'm not alone, the issue is settled.

Hussein is a phony, a fake, and not a documented U.S. citizen. Never was; never will be.

His executive order on his first day as president, hiding his entire life history, is all the proof I need.

Although I don't need or seek further proof, when he attempts to grant himself a pardon when leaving office, it should convince even the sub 70 IQ crowd that they swallowed the greatest fraud in the Nation's history hook line and sinker.

20 posted on 03/23/2015 8:52:14 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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