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Did the Torture Report Give the C.I.A. a Bum Rap?
New York Times ^ | February 20, 2015 | By DAVID COLE

Posted on 02/21/2015 4:01:56 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

WASHINGTON — IN December, when the Senate Intelligence Committee issued its long-awaited report on the C.I.A.’s detention and interrogation program, it seemed to confirm what I and many human-rights advocates had argued for a decade: The C.I.A. had started and run a fundamentally abusive and counterproductive torture program. What’s more, the report found that the C.I.A. had lied repeatedly about the program’s efficacy, and that it had neither disrupted terror plots nor saved lives.

The report continues to reverberate. Human-rights groups are calling for a special prosecutor to investigate Bush-era officials who authorized torture. The first C.I.A. officer to publicly discuss the practice of waterboarding, who was later imprisoned for leaking classified information, was recently released and says he was the victim of a politicized prosecution. On Wednesday, Poland agreed to pay reparations to two former detainees who were tortured at a C.I.A.-run “black site” there.

But the principal lesson drawn by countless commentators in the initial news cycle — that torture does not work — was reached before nearly anyone read the full report and responses by the C.I.A. and the Republican members of the committee. The report and responses amount to 828 pages. I’ve now had a chance to read the documents in full. And I suspect the C.I.A. was treated unfairly. . .

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Conclusion is that torture does work but it is immoral, at least from the vantage point of an ivory tower.
1 posted on 02/21/2015 4:01:56 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Conclusion is that torture does work but it is immoral, at least from the vantage point of an ivory tower.

To some people torture or violence is always immoral, unless it's their life that is on the line.

2 posted on 02/21/2015 4:11:38 PM PST by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

At this point, I don’t give a rat’s @$$ what they do to those savages. They should get their heads sawed off, be burned alive in cages and crucified. They earned it Savages.


3 posted on 02/21/2015 4:21:33 PM PST by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
If it's today's Rat Party that's conducting the study or supporting it you *know* it's a bum rap meant to harm this nation.About 40 years ago the Rat party,fast coming under the control of filthy 60’s radicals like Bill Ayers,made a conscious decision to become the Treason Party and thus we have Dirty Harry,Bella Pelosi,Princess Liawatha and Barry “Choom Gang” Soreto.
4 posted on 02/21/2015 4:47:26 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The author bases his thesis on the point that the so-called torture was illegal. However he does not cite any US legal statutes that were violated. He bases it on the Geneva Convention. My understanding is that terrorists are not covered by the Geneva Convention. My understanding that those who commit attacks on civilians or fight out of uniform are not covered, and can be legally executed on the spot. Logic tells one that the only ones engaging in illegal acts were the Islamic terrorists.


5 posted on 02/21/2015 4:56:34 PM PST by gusty
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Never crosses this guys’s lips or probably mind that the realized and intended victims of those detainees so treated suffered in many cases far more painfully than the “tortured.” If that is a question you can’t ask in terms of “whether it worked,” then you are an immoral monster yourself.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 5:17:33 PM PST by gusopol3
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The thing that is most disturbing about the CIA is that Marie Harf used to be an analyst there. If that’s the caliber of our CIA employees we are so screwed!


7 posted on 02/22/2015 4:02:57 AM PST by uncitizen (Obama hates America.)
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