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Paying the Price for Defending Your Troops
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Posted on 01/31/2015 1:47:32 PM PST by xzins

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To: jazusamo; xzins

thanks. How long can our military be effective at this rate?


21 posted on 01/31/2015 3:02:26 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: xzins

I doubt if Obama is going to even consider a pardon for someone who killed Muslims. We need to direct the petition to all the Candidates for the GOP nomination. Make them go on the record that if elected they will immediately issue a pardon.

Don’t expect anything from the democrats. As long as there is a democrat in the White House, this kid is going to be breaking rocks.


22 posted on 01/31/2015 3:17:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: dynachrome

A very good question to which I’d speculate not long under 0bama.

Even if we get a president that will support our military I wonder how long it will take for them to recover from the damage this one has done.


23 posted on 01/31/2015 3:19:15 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: xzins
Anyone doubt that King Obama is a communists black Muslim traitor and now add terrorists.
24 posted on 01/31/2015 3:25:35 PM PST by Logical me
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To: smoothsailing

“Lt. Lorance has been hung out to dry for Obama’s R.O.E.”

What more could one expect from the Hero of Benghazi ?


25 posted on 01/31/2015 3:28:20 PM PST by haroldeveryman (t)
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To: xzins

His own guys said this LT needs to fry for his actions. That’s enough for me.


26 posted on 01/31/2015 3:31:59 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Links


27 posted on 01/31/2015 4:04:12 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Did you see this paragraph of the above article?

According to the Record of Trial, Lt. Lorance's actions while leading the platoon were far from perfect. He was--after all-- convicted of making threatening remarks to Afghan civilians as well as obstruction of justice for omitting several details about the incident to his superiors. Even taking this information into consideration, the punishment doesn't seem to fit the crime.

What is at issue appears to be that day, that information, and that decision. Should we convict of someone of murder because they had a prior accusation of shoplifting?

28 posted on 01/31/2015 4:08:39 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Logical me; P-Marlowe

Some well known freeper (can’t remember at the moment) has a tagline that says something like, ‘assuming Obama’s a Muslim makes everything he does make sense’.

Occam’s Razor?


29 posted on 01/31/2015 4:15:35 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you so much!
God bless Col. West.


30 posted on 01/31/2015 4:16:36 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Future Snake Eater; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

Your post needs to be deleted.

Army Times is Gannett, it’s on the do not post list. Not even a one sentence excerpt.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts


32 posted on 01/31/2015 4:35:01 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

OK


33 posted on 01/31/2015 4:36:51 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

You could repost just the link with a brief explanation in your own words.


34 posted on 01/31/2015 4:39:46 PM PST by smoothsailing
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By S.A. Miller - The Washington Times - Tuesday, January 13, 2015
Three Republican congressmen have taken up the cause of Clint Lorance, a jailed former Army lieutenant fighting to overturn his murder conviction by a U.S. military court for killing two Afghan men in a war zone.

The lawmakers sent a letter Tuesday to Secretary of the Army John McHugh alerting him that they were closely following the appeals process and pressing court officers to review new evidence in Lorance’s case, which hinges on whether he violated the rules of engagement for the war zone.

“It is our belief, based on information brought to our attention, that Lorance’s case requires further review,” wrote the lawmakers, led by California Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Marine combat veteran.

The new evidence purportedly shows that the two Afghan men who were shot on Lorance’s orders could have been involved in planting improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, according to the letter.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/13/gop-lawmakers-champion-army-officer-convicted-murd/


35 posted on 01/31/2015 4:48:55 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Future Snake Eater

Thanks for the link, FSE. I’ll check it out.

What is surprising to me is a major outlet like Fox running with this if that info is out there and easily accessed. Something’s not coming together. It would only make them look ignorant. It’s always possible that they are, but something’s not adding up in my mind.

Lorance’s defense is that the killed Afghans were members of the enemy. The prosecution failed to turn over to the court evidence that proved that was in fact, true. Therefore, having a better sense than his soldiers, Lorance ordered an attack on actual enemies who later were shown to be actual enemies.


36 posted on 01/31/2015 4:56:24 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you so much!

In addition to Congressman Duncan Hunter, the article names the other two:
Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon and Montana Rep. Ryan K. Zinke, the first former Navy Seal to serve in Congress!!!


37 posted on 01/31/2015 5:00:07 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: xzins

The main complaint that may have traction is the length of the sentence, but, again, not being privy to the real meat of the case info, I can’t say for sure.

Twenty years is pretty stiff, but, despite what many FReepers think, we in the modern military don’t generally tend to completely railroad our own. A military judge/jury is only going to do this if this guy was guilty as hell.


38 posted on 01/31/2015 5:00:43 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon and Montana Rep. Ryan K. Zinke, the first former Navy Seal to serve in Congress!!!

I was looking for the other two in the article and you posted it before I could.

Good to know those three are on this.

39 posted on 01/31/2015 5:07:07 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: jazusamo; smoothsailing

Yes, we know Hunter and Salmon and Zinke, the newly elected former NAVY SEAL thrills me!


40 posted on 01/31/2015 5:09:05 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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