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To: ConservingFreedom; Marie
"Regulation is by any sensible definition smaller government than prohibition."

Really?

Let's look at dope like we do Tylenol or something similar...

The amount of federal bureaucracy involved in getting that bottle of caplets to your medicine chest is enormous.

Now we inject drugs that are instantly addictive in nature to the flow...I won't go into the current federal laws that are creating opportunities for thieves to rob the "stores" as result of banking regulations [see Colorado and laws of unintended consequences].

The front end is already accounted for, then there's the backend...dealing with the addicts.

Who regulates? Who institutes the "treatment" centers? Who runs the "treatment" centers? Who regulates the treatment centers?, most importantly, WHO PAYS?etc., etc. ad nauseum.

For anyone to naively or intentionally disregard the fact that the government will NOT get engaged in this at some point is absurd

There is just too much money and most importantly, power involved in this. Legalization of drugs like heroin is idiotic...marijuana is one thing, but heroin is an animal of an entirely different stripe.

And like I said before, we're not actually fighting a war, we're skirmishing, thus the results are what one should expect, ineffective. If we were to actually fight to win, the fields would be destroyed, the whole distribution network and anyone associated with it, destroyed, etc. Not this piecemeal BS we've been engaged in the past few decades.

IOW, no one has the balls to actually fight to win or they never intended to win [which I think is more to the point.]

And you both either ignored or missed my point about the "war"...and what these ex-cops who are now proponents of legalization stand to gain from their change of position.

220 posted on 01/21/2015 8:45:14 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian
Regulation is by any sensible definition smaller government than prohibition.

Please note carefully my use of the word "smaller" - and note that this word is not synonymous with "nonexistent."

Let's look at dope like we do Tylenol or something similar...

The amount of federal bureaucracy involved in getting that bottle of caplets to your medicine chest is enormous.

Whereas the amount of bureaucracy involved in detecting and punishing illicit drug making, selling, and using is miniscule?

Now we inject drugs that are instantly addictive in nature

I know of no evidence that any drug is "instantly" addictive - there are addicts of many drugs, including alcohol, who swear that they were addicted from the very first use, but refusal to accept responsibility is a hallmark of the addict.

to the flow...I won't go into the current federal laws that are creating opportunities for thieves to rob the "stores" as result of banking regulations [see Colorado and laws of unintended consequences].

I wasn't talking about the sort of regulation that's meant to bolster a prohibition.

Who institutes the "treatment" centers? Who runs the "treatment" centers? Who regulates the treatment centers?, most importantly, WHO PAYS?etc., etc. ad nauseum.

Who does these things now?

For anyone to naively or intentionally disregard the fact that the government will NOT get engaged in this at some point is absurd

Again, please note carefully my use of the word "smaller" - and note that this word is not synonymous with "nonexistent."

222 posted on 01/21/2015 9:03:18 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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