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Heroin problem: 'We're not going to arrest our way out of this'
The Dispatch / The Rock Island Argus [IL] ^ | January 18, 2015 | Rachel Warmke

Posted on 01/20/2015 10:24:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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1 posted on 01/20/2015 10:24:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
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To: ConservingFreedom

Give them as much as they want...after you fit them for the right sized casket. Let nature take place and lessen civilization as necessary.


2 posted on 01/20/2015 10:27:17 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: ConservingFreedom

Stupid hippies.

Destroyed this place.

And this is mush head liberal claptrap.


3 posted on 01/20/2015 10:27:43 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ConservingFreedom
First off, treatment seldom works on those who don't really, really, REALLY want to quit.

Second, they can't go back to the same circle of people they left when they were using, or there is a solid chance they'll be back on the stuff.

Yep, there likely are a few exceptions, but for the most part, forced (court-ordered) treatment will fail.

Then they become treatment-wise, know all the right things to say, spew it better than any Oscar winner, and as soon as they cut loose are back on the drugs.

It is utterly tragic, but most are a lost cause.

Remember, that crack ho' was once someone's 'baby girl'.

4 posted on 01/20/2015 10:30:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Just legalize the stuff. Problem solved.

/liberdopian thinking.


5 posted on 01/20/2015 10:30:25 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Heroin and Oxy destroyed my family. The answer is rehab, as well as nailing dealers to the wall.

...or better yet putting dealers in a locked room with a surviving Parent or Spouse, no questions asked, baseball bat provided. :)


6 posted on 01/20/2015 10:31:52 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: ifinnegan
this is mush head liberal claptrap.

Yeah, ex-cops are like that. /s

7 posted on 01/20/2015 10:33:08 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; ConservingFreedom; ifinnegan

CF never tires of pimping for legalizing drugs


8 posted on 01/20/2015 10:35:02 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Your family destroyed itself using the drugs.

It could have destroyed itself with weapons or with other intoxicants.

It is the urge to destroy oneself that needs to be addressed, and as long as an item which is neutral until used gets pegged as “responsible,” that urge won’t be addressed. Satan will hide quite nicely behind that non-sentient front.

Even the bible knows about this (it is not a stupid book).


9 posted on 01/20/2015 10:35:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Just legalize the stuff. Problem solved.

Legalization addresses the problems created or aggravated by criminalization, of which there are many; the problem of people ruining their lives with substances, legal (e.g., alcohol) or illegal, is beyond the competence or authority of government to solve.

10 posted on 01/20/2015 10:36:13 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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“We spend an awful lot of money in jailing people. We don’t spend nearly as much money treating them,”

Yeah. Let’s spend more and more on new government programs.

You posted thus liberal mush head garbage.


11 posted on 01/20/2015 10:37:31 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Did rehab work for your family member?


12 posted on 01/20/2015 10:38:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: ConservingFreedom

Powerful substances and items are at best only a very poor proxy for the devil when dealing with the devil’s actions.

Ban one successfully, the devil finds something else. He is not stupid.

There is no real way out of this conundrum without raw, strong gospel power. And that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


13 posted on 01/20/2015 10:38:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Responsibility2nd; ConservingFreedom

“CF never tires of pimping for legalizing drugs”

Dope heads love their dope.


14 posted on 01/20/2015 10:39:01 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Your compassion is overwhelming. Jerk.

OF COURSE I KNOW THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES.


15 posted on 01/20/2015 10:39:44 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Heroin and Oxy destroyed my family.

Should we ban oxy?

nailing dealers to the wall.

Brian Gaughan and the other current and former members of the law enforcement and criminal justice communities in Law Enforcement Against Prohibition disagree.

16 posted on 01/20/2015 10:40:24 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ifinnegan

The best remedy COULD be offered free in churches without the government getting caught up in it at all (other than making room, by abolishing silly restrictions like making Christians bake gay wedding cakes).

However there is a catch — now you have to get up on your feet before God (after having first gotten down on your knees).


17 posted on 01/20/2015 10:40:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, I am a jerk for telling you the truth. The truth is the door to the only answer that actually works.

You want a roomful of bandaids or you want a cure???


18 posted on 01/20/2015 10:41:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“The best remedy COULD be offered free in churches without the government getting caught up in it at all (other than making room, by abolishing silly restrictions like making Christians bake gay wedding cakes).”

I think it is offered free already.

Not enough take the offer.


19 posted on 01/20/2015 10:43:25 AM PST by ifinnegan
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Let’s spend more and more on new government programs.

I'd prefer redirecting the money we now futilely spend on apprehension and incarceration - but I'd like best of all leaving that money in the pockets of those who earned it.

20 posted on 01/20/2015 10:44:04 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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