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1 posted on 01/08/2015 5:19:50 PM PST by bryan999
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“Free” means taxpayers pay for it? Is he insane?


99 posted on 01/08/2015 9:27:16 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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Dear Occupant of the White Hut: There is no such thing as Free... the taxpayers will pay it. My oldest son is taking 2 community college courses and either his mom or me got to drive him (not old enough to drive).

Occupant, please stop SPENDING MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE!!! I know you want this into a socialist country... but F U.

101 posted on 01/08/2015 9:30:38 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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Obama’s MO -
I have said it will happen (free community college), and if it doesn’t, it’s their fault, not mine.


107 posted on 01/09/2015 12:06:27 AM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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When I read this I had another NO WAY moment. That’s when I read or hear something so bloody ridiculous that I laugh a bit and assume it’s either made up, or it’s so stupid it will never see the light of day.

I remember my first NO WAY moment - it was years ago when I heard that activists were wanting homosexuality to be considered normal, just an alternative lifestyle. I was quite confident that would NEVER be something people would accept. NEVER.

Most things this president says cause me to have a NO WAY moment, but now I realize that this clown is actually going to pull it off. Nobody seems to be able to stop this insanity.


108 posted on 01/09/2015 12:10:14 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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“What I’d like to do is to see the first two years of community college free for everybody who’s willing to work for it,”

The nimrod speaks contradictions. And the lapdog press and his cult eat it up.

Imagine, just for a moment, Sarah Palin said, "You should get x for free if you work for it."

Imagine.

Mockery, English professors, logicians, even the drooling journalists of network news would be able to see the backasswardness of the phrase.

But let the little tin god speak it...suddenly they bow at his feet.

109 posted on 01/09/2015 12:26:58 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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The proposal would make two years of community college free for students with a C+ average...

So what Princess Barry is saying is that C+ will now be the lowest grade that is possible. No more failing grades!

Obola akbar!

113 posted on 01/09/2015 3:39:20 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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The cost of higher education is inflated.
The estimated preparedness of incoming Freshmen, and their appropriateness for college is inflated.
The grades are inflated.
The self-assessment of the knowledge of graduating students is inflated.
The whole process has become a joke.

Thomas Sowell summed it up perfectly with a great quote of his that I read a while back.
He pointed out that liberals will always tend to work in “industries” where the quality of the “product” has no bearing on the success of the industry — which is why they tend to dominate academia and journalism, for example.


122 posted on 01/09/2015 6:18:34 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: bryan999; The Ghost of FReepers Past; Enlightened1; spiderfern; taxcontrol; molson209; ...

I am late to this thread, but I didn’t see a lot of comments about how colleges are likely to react, so here goes.

For subsidizes to higher education, people have enjoyed grants, loans and tax benefits. Now President Obama had determined community college will be completely free. However, you should know that most of the joy will, as before, be shared among college finance directors.

To understand how we finance officers game the system you have to endure a bit of math. The Department of Education (DOE) requires colleges to prepare student budgets, and families to complete a financial aid form. DOE then determines an expected family contribution. The difference between the budget and expected family contribution the college then attempts to fill with awards. In most cases, at least for privates, there always remains an unmet need. However, students still successfully complete the school year.

I analyzed this figure to hold financial aid people accountable for adopting standards for awards which took into account this unmet need that families overcame. During my tenure the American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit were supposedly of direct benefit to the student and their parents. Instead I plugged those figures into my standards for unmet need to require greater average contributions and lesser awards by the college. I made sure the student and their parents were conduits for and not recipients of the majority of these tax benefits.

This story illustrates how financial people have behaved ever since the feds started throwing money at colleges. I am sure my colleagues will be up to the challenges this new task as well.


132 posted on 01/12/2015 12:18:49 PM PST by Retain Mike
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