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US TO START TALKS WITH CUBA TO NORMALIZE FULL DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS
Fox News ^ | 2014-12-17 | Associated Press (AP)

Posted on 12/17/2014 7:00:18 AM PST by WhiskeyX

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Cuba; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhostatedept; castro; communism; cuba; dictatorships; diplomatic; distraction; diversion; obama; relations
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To: Olog-hai
If Nixon could normalize relations with Mao's China and Reagan could normalize relations with the Soviet Union, I fail to see why having diplomatic relations with Cuba (or even Iran) would be so much worse (and incidentally - Saudi Arabia does more to sponsor jihad and radical Islam abroad than Iran has ever dreamed of).

Is Obama the right person to do it? Of course not, because he'll do it from a position of weakness rather than strength. But because something is being done by the wrong man for the job doesn't mean that the job itself is wrong.

141 posted on 12/17/2014 9:27:29 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: catfish1957

So was Nixon treasonous for reaching out to China?

Obama will be gone in January 2017, all paranoid fantasies aside.


142 posted on 12/17/2014 9:27:35 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: jalisco555

And exactly why do you want to visit a communist country? Are you planning on visiting North Korea also? Any money you spend in Cuba will support the Regime.


143 posted on 12/17/2014 9:30:03 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Regardless of the merits of Obama’s Cuba move - it’s certain that no actual new law will be signed. The set of existing laws (or as Obama calls them “laws”) that establish the embargo will just be ignored, while the Chicago King marches forward with memos and phone calls.


144 posted on 12/17/2014 9:30:22 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents and supporters are Traitors.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Uhh.... to see what its like? Why does anyone want to go to any foreign country? Some of us like to see how the other half live.


145 posted on 12/17/2014 9:31:32 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: ek_hornbeck

No, it’s not a red herring. So-called “state capitalism” is all over Marx’s writings. And if you think that private businesses operating in China are really private, think again—China has always assaulted trade secrets while giving lip service to their protection.

A dearth of subsidized medicine is interpreted as China being further along in the transition from socialism to communism, BTW. Even the 1936 USSR Constitution appropriated 1 Thessalonians 3:10 and twisted it into its “root principle of socialism” in Article 12.


146 posted on 12/17/2014 9:32:11 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: jalisco555

Well you know what they say. Never get between a libertarian and his hookers and blow. Libertarianism is a theoretical construct that only works in a perfect world with perfect people. Do you know how to create a libertarian? Just take a conservative and remove all common sense.


147 posted on 12/17/2014 9:32:40 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03
And exactly why do you want to visit a communist country? Are you planning on visiting North Korea also? Any money you spend in Cuba will support the Regime.

Well, I've been to Nicaragua and found the people there delightful and friendly. Although like China, they're only nominally Communist. Plus, I like to make up my own mind.

148 posted on 12/17/2014 9:34:17 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Logical me

Wow, just in time for the Jimrob to endorse Romney thread that just popped up.


149 posted on 12/17/2014 9:35:32 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: bigdaddy45
So was Nixon treasonous for reaching out to China?

Yep, and you are naïve to think that these Chicoms couldn't bankrupt us if they pulled a few financial strings. EPA and the olive branch to the Chicoms were his biggest mistakes.

And about your stupid comment about paranoid fantasies..... Go ahead and put your Obolo knee pads on. Most freepers here understand what this SOB is all about, and his intent to destroy this country. If you don't, that just adds another level of naivety that runs rampant in you.

150 posted on 12/17/2014 9:35:55 AM PST by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: SVTCobra03
Do you know how to create a libertarian?

Well, having lived under Big Government Conservatism as well as Big Government Liberalism, and seeing the wreckage both have strewn, can you blame me?

151 posted on 12/17/2014 9:36:37 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: bigdaddy45
Cuba represents a threat to the US? How exactly?

Evil is always a threat and must be vanquished. Zero tolerance is the right stance. Never surrender! Never tolerate communism! Never give an inch to the enemy!

The poltroon Johnny Kennedy botched the Bay of Pigs invasion and later caved to communism, resulting in the rogue state of Cuba lying within less than a hundred miles of Florida. A clear message must be sent to the world that America will never tolerate communist Cuba.

It really boils down to this. What would President Reagan do? We don't have to speculate for in 1982, he tightened sanctions and put teeth in the travel ban. It's a simple binary, black and white issue. Reagan was and is right. The criminal hussein was, is and will always be wrong.

152 posted on 12/17/2014 9:39:39 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: jalisco555

China is not nominally communist.

They’re currently following the principle espoused by Khrushchev of allowing the capitalists to sell them the rope by which the capitalists will then be hung from. Never mind other principles set out in Sun Tzu’s treatise “The Art Of War”, which I suggest you read, and quickly.


153 posted on 12/17/2014 9:39:51 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: jalisco555

There’s no such thing as big government conservatism. What you and all of us experienced is liberalism.

Care to propagandize a bit more for the enemy?


154 posted on 12/17/2014 9:40:47 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; All

” I want one of Gullwing Mercedes Benz SLs that are there.”

I want a restorable 58-59 Corvette “fuelie”

www. CubaClassicChebby.com


155 posted on 12/17/2014 9:42:07 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Yes Nixon was, and liberals are the ones usually fond of the phrase “paranoid fantasies”.


156 posted on 12/17/2014 9:42:29 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: jalisco555
Sorry, but I don’t want the government telling me what I can put into my body. Nor do I want it telling me where I can and cannot go.

Your tagline quotes from the the greatest president of the 20th Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan. On these two issues, why do you stand on the side of the evil hussein, who illegally occupies the White House and against Ronaldus Maximus?

157 posted on 12/17/2014 9:43:01 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: dfwgator
Basically Castro will have to admit he’s been wrong all these years, and I don’t see that happening.

Not really. Castro has rarely been seen in public for years and is too old to say much of anything. If he does have an opinion on this, no one is going to hear it except his nurse.

158 posted on 12/17/2014 9:43:18 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: SVTCobra03

“Well you know what they say. Never get between a libertarian and his hookers and blow.”

LMAO

” Libertarianism is a theoretical construct that only works in a perfect world with perfect people. “

Spot on!


159 posted on 12/17/2014 9:45:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Oh great, another million refuges on the public dole just set its wheels in action.


160 posted on 12/17/2014 9:45:15 AM PST by DAC21
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