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Congress 'Endorses' Warrantless Collection, Storage of U.S. Communications
US News ^ | Dec. 11, 2014 | 7:16 p.m. EST | Steven Nelson

Posted on 12/17/2014 6:14:27 AM PST by upchuck

With nearly no public notice or debate, Congress on Wednesday approved legislation that critics say blesses the warrantless collection, dissemination and five-year retention of everyday Americans’ phone and Internet communications.

The controversial language was quietly incorporated into an intelligence authorization bill that passed the Senate on Tuesday and then the House on Wednesday.

The legislation, privacy advocates say, sanctions for the first time the executive branch’s warrantless collection of American communications under Executive Order 12333, issued in 1981 to authorize the interception of communications overseas.

Section 309 of the intelligence bill sets a five-year limit, with many exceptions, on the retention of U.S. persons' communications collected under that order, which was issued well before widespread use of cellphones and the Internet. 

Members of Rep. Justin Amash’s staff noticed the section Wednesday morning, and the Michigan Republican rushed to the House floor, rallied opposition with a letter to colleagues and secured a roll call vote.

But opponents failed to defeat the bill, which passed 325-100 and now heads to President Barack Obama for his signature.

“This whole thing is so upsetting to me,” says John Napier Tye, a former State Department Internet policy official who went public as a whistleblower in July. Tye warns that U.S. spy agencies can evade congressional oversight and use the order to scoop up vast amounts of American communications routinely routed through foreign cables and servers.

“It is good that Congress is trying to regulate 12333 activities,” Tye says. “But the language in this bill just endorses a terrible system that allows the NSA to take virtually everything Americans do online and use it however it wants according to the rules it writes.” He says that includes sharing the intercepts with foreign governments and domestic law enforcement.

The provision says “any nonpublic telephone or electronic communication” sent by or among Americans that’s intercepted by intelligence agencies without a court order or subpoena can be stored for five years.

Intercepted communications can be stored longer if they are encrypted, include evidence of a crime or meet other exceptions.

“The NSA can take everything an American does online [and] write its own rules for how to share it with foreign governments and with the FBI, allowing a huge amount of American data to [be used to] prosecute Americans with no court oversight," Tye says.

The New York Times reported in August that the Obama administration is rewriting internal policies to allow the FBI direct access to a database of raw communications collected under the executive order.

There’s no specification in the legislation of crimes that would qualify communications for distribution to law enforcement. “The executive branch writes its own rules,” Tye says, with the FBI using parallel construction to obscure the true origin of some criminal investigations.

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One more quote from the article:Maybe Congress can use their pushback on nobama's unconstitutional amnesty as a template for the privacy pushback.
1 posted on 12/17/2014 6:14:27 AM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

I would be VERY interested in knowing what people in NSA are pushing for this, and who exactly added that provision to the bill.

Those people need to be removed from their positions and be thrown under the jail for the rest of their lives.


2 posted on 12/17/2014 6:18:44 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: upchuck

This sounds like the NSA wiretapping scandal now made legal.

this is not good.


3 posted on 12/17/2014 6:22:40 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: txnativegop

The “right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures” was won with considerable bloodshed.

It was given away with barely a whimper.


4 posted on 12/17/2014 6:27:15 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: upchuck

We’re going to be hearing the word “pushback” a lot during the next two years, but it will only be a convenient ruse and an evasive tactic to avoid actually doing anything. Most GOP voters are gullible and will buy it; they like being deceived.

The only thing that will be pushed back will be initiatives from conservatives.


5 posted on 12/17/2014 6:27:58 AM PST by Starboard
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To: upchuck

"Gee, Wally, I hope they remembered to exempt themselves."


"Of course they exempted themselves, ya big goof. They're Congressholes. They always cover their own asses."

6 posted on 12/17/2014 6:28:48 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Good post FRiend.


7 posted on 12/17/2014 6:29:17 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Texas Eagle

Leave it to Congress! ;)


8 posted on 12/17/2014 6:30:05 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SomeCallMeTim

But this is Obama’s Hope and Change, isn’t it so wonderful? /s


9 posted on 12/17/2014 6:36:23 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: upchuck

See my tagline for an explanation.


10 posted on 12/17/2014 6:37:59 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: Lazamataz

That, unfortunately, is an accurate tag. What a shame.


11 posted on 12/17/2014 6:42:22 AM PST by upchuck (A Free Market; Individual Liberty; Limited Government; And to the Republic for which it stands.)
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To: Starboard
We’re going to be hearing the word “pushback” a lot...

The current Congress is just referring to the preparation for the next thrust.

12 posted on 12/17/2014 6:48:28 AM PST by GingisK
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To: upchuck

Democrats were up in arms over Bush’s “warrantless wiretaps,” now this passes in bipartisan fashion.


13 posted on 12/17/2014 6:48:41 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

Bump!


14 posted on 12/17/2014 7:57:10 AM PST by upchuck (A Free Market; Individual Liberty; Limited Government; And to the Republic for which it stands.)
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To: upchuck
WTF!!!!!!!
15 posted on 12/17/2014 7:58:57 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: txnativegop
But this is Obama’s Hope and Change, isn’t it so wonderful? /s

I can't stand Obama, but.... you can't lay this all on him. The bill passed 315-100 in the Republican led House.

Both Parties are controlled by supporters of "Big Government"...and, it's damned near impossible to get rid of them.

16 posted on 12/17/2014 8:08:20 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Good one!

My fav show growing up.

The meme would provide endless opportunities to lampoon fun at DC.


17 posted on 12/17/2014 8:10:17 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I wasn’t just blaming Obama, There are a large number of RINOs that have to be removed as you said.

The problem is, how?


18 posted on 12/17/2014 8:29:53 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: txnativegop
The problem is, how?

In reality, there's only one way.... but, one dare not whisper it too loudly. Not after reading THAT article, anyway.

19 posted on 12/17/2014 9:00:26 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

it does impose certain difficulties . . .


20 posted on 12/17/2014 9:02:53 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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