Posted on 12/11/2014 9:47:27 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
both deserve to be regarded as traitors
If Stutzman hadnt done what he did, CRomnibus would have died; instead it passed tonight.
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I don’t think the vote count stated by Rollcall are right.
The numbers I recall seeing Thursday night were 219-206, so this drama queen Congressman’s vote didn’t matter.
“Its always the same old sheet. Well get em next time.”
* Early 2014 - Vote for us. We’ll fight for you.
* 2014 after the election - We have to pass this budget or we’ll be accused of shutting down the government. Next year when the Senate is sworn in we’ll fight.
* 2015 - We can’t have a budget showdown this year. It will hurt our prospects in 2016. After all we can’t win against a President with a veto.
* 2016 - We can’t have a budget fight in an election year but vote for us because we’ll fight for you once we capture the White House.
* 2017 - President Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton sworn in with majorities in the House and Senate. Historians note this event effectively marked the end of the Republic. From that point on there was no opposition party.
Guess this Vichy Republican was on his way to his next gay encounter in the House Cloakroom.
Our only chance is if the real conservatives stay in the Republican Party long enough to vote for a new Speaker, a true constitutional conservative. Then, the constitutional conservatives should form a new party. They can then vote as a bloc on every issue, and stop the sleazy stuff from passing. As a bloc, they'd be harder to manipulate.
Do I think that will happen? No. This last Boehner move is more despicable than even Obama and Pelosi at their worst. I don't know how this oligarchy is saved. And I don't think it should be.
JMHO
Burn baby burn, disco inferno...
This is already the second instance since the election, where Boehner has been accused of a dirty trick. The Ted Yoho bill on immigration, Boehner was accused of secretly amending the bill without telling anyone and then allowing it to get voted on.
This guy has the biggest Republican majority since the days of Calvin Coolidge and he's reduced to dirty tricks? How pathetic can you get?
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
ping
That is, without a doubt, the last possible civil solution to this.
Rollcall reporter’s tweet last night:
“Matt Fuller @MEPFuller
· 11h 11 hours ago
For the record, a source did tell me this afternoon that a member was told they were pulling the bill. Leadership aides denied it.”
Gives credence to his claim.
It could have been a deliberate leak to feed his CYA cover story.
In big time politics lies are told over and over again until we believe them and support business as usual politics over principle.
Just tell him the truth, you *ed up, you trusted us.
Where the heck are great conservative contenders Mike Pence and Scott Walker calling out this BS?
They have been doing nothing but sitting on Aspen Institute type panels bashing the legislative branch when they dont cave to the executive.
How did he vote on the actually spending bill?
“How did he vote on the actually spending bill?”
Stutzman voted no on the actual bill.
He effectively performed the role Olympia Snowe played on Obamacare. She voted to allow it to move from committee to the Senate for vote when she could have stopped it. Stutzman could have voted no on the rule and prevented the spending bill from going to a vote in the House.
The man is incompetent. He claims he did it because he was lied to by Boehner? He has been serving in the House since 2010 and believes what John Boehner tells him in 2014? Sorry, I can’t believe anyone is that naive.
Obviously not a case of a newbie unaware of how things work then. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
Question: Instead of an all out repeal, has there been bills offered that would amend Obamacare. The change I have in mind is the one where you can only buy private insurance during an open enrollment period and if you miss it you are stuck without insurance for a year.
Bonehead and the boys playing “rearrange the deck chairs” AGAIN.
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