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How Gun Control Made England The 'Most Violent Country In Europe'
Breitbart ^ | 24 Sep 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 09/24/2014 7:34:04 PM PDT by george76

Gun control in Britain passed in stages, beginning just after World War I and continuing in a reactionary fashion with increasing strictness through the 1990s.

When the final stage arrived in 1997, and virtually all handguns were banned via the Firearms Act, the promise was a reduction in crime and greater safety for the British people. But the result was the emergence of Britain as the "most violent country in Europe."

Britain began placing restrictions on gun ownership after World War I with the Firearms Act of 1920.

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The Firearms Act of 1920 did not ban guns. Rather, it required that citizens who wanted a gun had to first obtain a certificate from the government. We see this same stage taking place in various places in the United States now, where a person who wants a firearm has to get a Fire Owner Identification Card (Illinois) or has to be vetted by police (Massachusetts) or both.

Thirteen years after the passage of the Firearms Act, British Parliament passed the Firearms and Imitation Firearms Bill, making the possession of a replica gun or a real one equally punishable unless the owner of either could show the lawful purpose for which he had it. (Sounds like California?)

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In 2009, twelve years after the Firearms Act of 1997 was passed, Daily Mail Online reported that Britain was "the most violent country in Europe." They also reported that Britain's home figures showed "the UK [had] a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and South Africa."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; gungrabbers; rkba; secondamendment
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1 posted on 09/24/2014 7:34:04 PM PDT by george76
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importing a flood of Mohammed’s little helpers didn’t help matters either.

We could arm the Brits pretty quick if we wanted to though. Heh.


2 posted on 09/24/2014 7:40:25 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: george76

Amazing. Great post.


4 posted on 09/24/2014 7:42:12 PM PDT by Fungi
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Brits also pay a Television license , I wonder if they pay the Not Paying Attention Tax as well


5 posted on 09/24/2014 7:44:33 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: george76

One of the clearest thinking anti-gun control writers and speakers was an English constable named Colin Greenwood. He spoke before Parliament and also was a visiting speaker at Cambridge.

He pointed out that as Britain passed more and more gun controls, each time they were accompanied by increased crime.

Before 1919, there were no gun controls at all in Britain except for one very minor one. You could buy machine guns, canons, etc. with no requirements at all.

The one legal requirement was that for handgun purchases you had to purchase a stamp at the Post Office and it was issued as routine, meaning everyone who asked for one, got one.

During that period according to inspector Greenwood, you could count all the armed robberies in the country for a year on the fingers of one hand. Some of the Western Islands of Scotland had never had a serious crime.

Now Britain has a higher rate of home burglaries than the U.S.


6 posted on 09/24/2014 7:45:45 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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Thank you for the history lesson. I had never heard of him.


7 posted on 09/24/2014 7:48:25 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: george76

Perhaps when UKIP comes to power, they’ll restore the right to bear arms to our Brit friends. Thank our forefathers for having the foresight to INGRAIN this right into our Constitution. The Brits need something similar to the 2nd Amendment.


8 posted on 09/24/2014 7:48:48 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: yarddog

During the Victorian era, if Sherlock Holmes wanted to carry his “Boxer pistol”, he did not need a permit. When Sherlock asked Watson to bring along his service revolver, he just grabbed it and pocketed it.

No gun control at all and despite all the crimes Sherlock solved there were hardly any.


9 posted on 09/24/2014 7:49:50 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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To: molson209

“The man from the cat detector van.”
“The loonie detector van, you mean!”
“Look, it’s people like you what cause unrest.”

“The man said, their equipment could detect a purr at forty yards, and Eric, being such a happy cat, was a piece of cake.”


10 posted on 09/24/2014 7:51:02 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: george76

An important fact to consider is, in England, a dead body that died not of disease or accident is not counted as a murder until the perp has been found and tried*. So a lifeless body that resulted from an anonymous drive-by does not count as a murder until the courts settle everything including naming he suspect and trying them.

No wonder their murder rate is lo low!

Here, a body is counted as a murder if it was not natural causes even if the perp is not named.

*The coroner cannot say a dead body was murdered, because it then prejudges the accused, once the accused is found.


11 posted on 09/24/2014 7:52:34 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: yarddog

The 1920 gun control act was nothing but class warfare.

After four years of horrific trench warfare, Tommy was returning from France with all those captured German pistols & rifles, and the potential for armed unrest against those who had ordered the mass carnage of the Great War could not be ignored by the ruling classes.


12 posted on 09/24/2014 7:55:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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The Russian Revolution and subsequent murder of the Tsar and his family who were kin to the British Royals, scared the crap out of the British leaders.

That was why the first gun control act was passed.


13 posted on 09/24/2014 8:03:29 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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To: molson209

Yep. To the very entity that employed and ignored a serial pedophile.......for DECADES.


14 posted on 09/24/2014 8:05:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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geo 76, “possession of a replica gun...(Sounds like California?)”

Actually, in Cal. It’s now open season for legal execution of looks-like-a-gun, open carry violators. Even applies to children.

THEY’RE ALLOWED TO SHOOT CHILDREN ON THE STREET
From O’S News Service July 8, 2014

Erick Gelhaus— fired 8 large hollow point slugs at 13-year-old Andy Lopez. One missed. Andy, walking down a street in Santa Rosa. (the patrol car chirped, an officer came out shouting then shooting).

R.


15 posted on 09/24/2014 8:06:03 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: yarddog; All

Yes, thank you for mentioning him. I read his work in the late 1970’s. Just like here, the citizen disarmament folks in the UK were not interested in logic.

They wanted their citizens disarmed, and they used lies and tricks to make it happen.

Colin Greenwood was an honorable man. I think he has passed on.

http://www.pierrelemieux.org/greenwood-citizen.html


16 posted on 09/24/2014 8:09:12 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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Thanks, I had not read one of his articles in years.


17 posted on 09/24/2014 8:14:33 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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To: elcid1970

From what I understand...those who exibited PTSD on the battlefield were shot on the spot.


18 posted on 09/24/2014 8:16:58 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: george76

I remember an old cartoon from PUNCH back in 1968.

Two British men are walking down the street and see a newspaper, BOBBY KENNEDY MURDERED! One says to the other,...”My God! What is going on over there!”
Yet behind the men lurks the darkened figure labeled “British Crime”.


19 posted on 09/24/2014 8:19:07 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: elcid1970

...........very interesting!


20 posted on 09/24/2014 8:31:46 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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