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A Final Verdict on the Presidential Salute (oldie but goody)
NY Times ^ | October 31, 2009 | CAREY WINFREY

Posted on 09/24/2014 8:01:11 AM PDT by God luvs America

FOR nearly three decades, I’ve felt conflicted about presidential salutes. After all, my United States Marine Corps instructors drilled into me the idea that “you never salute without a cover” which, in civilian, meant without a hat. My fellow Marines and I were also informed, in no uncertain terms, that we weren’t to salute out of uniform. (I don’t think that presidential blue suits, white shirts and red ties quite qualify.) So whenever I saw a president stepping off a helicopter and bringing hand to brow, my drill instructor’s unambiguous words came back to me with much of their original force.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marines; military; president; salute
Mr. Reagan’s successors continued the practice, and I continued to be conflicted — believing that when it comes to salutes (and one or two other matters), presidents deserved to be cut some slack, but also feeling a little uneasy about the whole thing.

My ambivalence came to an end last week, when I saw a videotape of the president’s midnight trip to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, where he had participated, very early that morning, in the “dignified transfer” of 15 Army soldiers and three Drug Enforcement Administration agents killed that week in Afghanistan. Mr. Obama stood ramrod straight and saluted as six soldiers carried the coffin bearing the body of Sgt. Dale Griffin of Indiana off a C-17 transport aircraft and into a waiting van. His salute, it struck me, was impeccable in every way.

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the reason I posted this 5 YO OpEd is because I want everyone to remember how the criminal left wing media gushed over obama's salute 5 years ago as they run to cover his latest outrage.

1 posted on 09/24/2014 8:01:11 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: God luvs America

To me, when a marine salutes a soldier he wears his uniform. When a sailor salutes an admiral, he wears his uniform. When the commander in chief salutes any military member, he should do the same. The uniform of the commander in chief is traditionally a suit and tie, or whatever it happens to be, but just like the soldier or the sailor does not raise his sidearm or his sword to his forehead during the salute, the coffee cup does not belong in the commander in chief’s raised hand during the salute.


2 posted on 09/24/2014 8:10:26 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: God luvs America
Obama knows how to show his respect


3 posted on 09/24/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("If you want to test a man's character, give him power." -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Iron Munro
Obama knows how to show his respect

And to whom to show it...a king like he wants to be.

4 posted on 09/24/2014 8:18:19 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama : Hear us now or believe us on election day.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

President Of the US is just a joke to Obama


5 posted on 09/24/2014 8:21:20 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Iron Munro

This picture is the perfect illustration of why Obama has been so reticent about the ME barbarism and why he has telegraphed all the military moves or non moves in plenty of time for his buddies in the Muzzie hierarchy to get out of Dodge. He is one of them!!!


6 posted on 09/24/2014 8:22:36 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Iron Munro
From casual Latte salute from a disorganized Community Organizer to sending his wife out to campaign for the Black vote.


7 posted on 09/24/2014 8:23:29 AM PDT by yoe
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To: God luvs America

So he knows how to salute. He just didn’t feel like it. He probably didn’t see the cameras, or maybe this was to show his buddies in the Muslim countries what he really thinks of our military. I’ll never forget the time he ordered the Marines to hold an umbrella over his head during a light rain. He has no respect for the military and has cut their pay a few times already.


8 posted on 09/24/2014 8:25:33 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: God luvs America

No uniform and he is still the Commander and Chief?


9 posted on 09/24/2014 8:28:54 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldnÂ’t make any sense at all." -- Pres. Reagan)
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To: Real Cynic No More

In the Navy, I was taught that it is permissible to salute if in civilian clothes and wearing a hat. In fact, if wearing a hat (cover) in or out of uniform, it was (is?) required to salute senior officers.


10 posted on 09/24/2014 8:42:53 AM PDT by CPONav
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To: yoe


11 posted on 09/24/2014 8:44:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("If you want to test a man's character, give him power." -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: God luvs America

Thanks for posting the best part, I read that yesterday and it was a jaw dropper.


12 posted on 09/24/2014 8:48:19 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: God luvs America
I think the appropriateness of the Presidential salute is tied directly to the attitude of the President towards the Armed Forces.

With Ronald Reagan, both Bushes, and to a lesser extent, Bill Clinton there was genuine respect for the service members when they returned the salute.

Barack H 0bama has no respect for the armed forces. It showed plainly this week in the "latte salute."

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

13 posted on 09/24/2014 8:48:53 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: God luvs America
Ronald Reagan was thought to be the first, in 1981. He had sought advice on the matter from Gen. Robert Barrow, commandant of the Marine Corps.

What a concept! A president of the United States who actually sought advice from the military and delivered.

14 posted on 09/24/2014 8:52:37 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: God luvs America

Slightly off topic but when I saw the “smartest man in the room” dissing his body guards - in case that is too nuanced for him - the guys who are supposed to stand between him and gunfire - my first thought was “yeah, smart, real smart”.

Apparently ideology trumps everything - even self-preservation.


15 posted on 09/24/2014 9:09:59 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: LonePalm

Bill Clinton there was genuine respect for the service members...
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Forget the salute part, the Clintons used the military as servants in the the White House.

Look it up.


16 posted on 09/24/2014 10:23:08 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: Iron Munro
Is it noon yet? Obama cigarette photo: obama blackpresident.jpg
17 posted on 09/24/2014 10:26:08 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: RetSignman
I think that was more Hillary than Bill.

I don't like Bill Clinton at all but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this issue. Hillary gets bupkis.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

18 posted on 09/24/2014 10:51:21 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on this issue.
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Ever since he said...”Ah didn’t have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski”, I don’t and won’t ever give him the benefit of the doubt on anything.

As far as I’m concerned, it didn’t bother him enough to stop the misuse of our servicemen and could have.


19 posted on 09/24/2014 11:21:37 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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