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NATO to fast-track rapid-reaction force
Associated Press ^ | Sep 18, 2014 12:23 PM EDT | David Rising

Posted on 09/18/2014 10:15:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai

NATO’s new rapid-reaction “spearhead” force, meant as a deterrent to Russian aggression, should be up and running with initial capabilities in less than a year, a top alliance official said Thursday.

The creation of a 4,000 to 5,000 troop response force, which will be able to respond to a crisis in eastern Europe within two to three days, was a key decision taken by NATO leaders earlier this month in Wales.

The force represents a calculation by NATO that Russian President Vladimir Putin won’t risk going head-to-head with the Western alliance. …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eussr; nato; rapidreactionforce; ukraine
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1 posted on 09/18/2014 10:15:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This is a joke.

If Russian forces cross into Europe, the bodies of our troops will be solely employed to grease the treads of their tanks.


2 posted on 09/18/2014 10:19:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Olog-hai

I question just what amount of military capability Russia still has.

It may be a lot more than I think. It might be a lot less too.

I haven’t been particularly impressed by it’s efficiency in the current Ukraine flare-up.


3 posted on 09/18/2014 10:19:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Olog-hai

Putin absolutely will be going after the Baltics. He as much as said so at a conference in Russia last week where he spoke to ethnic Russian representatives from Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. I expect more and more Russian incursions across those borders and I also expect Putin to invade Estonia before Obama gets out of office. This is because he knows he can get away with it while Obama is pResident.


4 posted on 09/18/2014 10:21:54 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: Olog-hai

How long has NATO been around and they’re just getting around to creating a rapid-reaction force?


5 posted on 09/18/2014 10:26:44 AM PDT by McGruff (I'm for freedom)
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To: Jack Hammer

Russia is no match for us.


6 posted on 09/18/2014 10:36:10 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: McGruff

NATO has had a NATO Response Force for many years, this is a more tip of the spear element that can react within hours.


7 posted on 09/18/2014 10:41:39 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Persia was no match for the Spartans, either, but...


8 posted on 09/18/2014 10:43:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

Russia isn’t Sparta, we are.

You might want to rethink your loyalties and take a look at the militaries involved.


9 posted on 09/18/2014 10:45:40 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I’m no miltary expert, so I apologize if my views are unsound, but my impression is that Russia has, like, a gazillion tanks and a huge army.

Or are my views too Cold War and out-of-date?


10 posted on 09/18/2014 10:52:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, they’ll move about as fast as a herd of turtles in January. ..


11 posted on 09/18/2014 10:57:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Jack Hammer
Sorry, I didn't realize that, but yes, you are thinking of the Russia that Reagan brought down, today those Warsaw pact nations that Russia held in slavery are not only not available to Russia, they are part of NATO today.

Tanks aren't what they used to be, and Russia could never launch a successful attack against NATO, and the oceans, and the skies, they aren't even structured the way they used to be, they used to be built for attack, and of course Russia is incapable of protecting itself on it's other borders and from internal rebellion if it committed it's small military against NATO, or lost the bulk of it in war.

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12 posted on 09/18/2014 11:02:53 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Jack Hammer
Extremely out of date. The Russian Army of today is a small fragment of the Red Army of 1985. While they have been trying very hard to improve their forces, attempting to rely less on conscripts and more on professionals, attempting to change decades of traditional abuse of recruits, and attempting to improve their equipment, only the elite special forces of Russia have really seen many benefits.

The general condition of the Russian Army is poor - most units would have been classed as Category 3 back in the Red Army days. That is not to say they would be a pushover, and they can certainly run rough-shod over Ukraine and possibly Poland. They can also put more effort into improving their situation, but they still have vast layers of tradition and institutional corruption blocking much progress.

Russian Air Force and Navy forces are in similar poor shape - most of the old Red Fleet is non-operational and rusting at peirs. They have some good ships still, and have built a few newer ones that are impressive, but their shipbuilding has fallen from its Soviet days and they actually have to get ships built in France (something the Red Fleet would never have done). Russian Air units have some good fighters but are lacking in fuel and spare parts - again, soemthing that could be addressed with effort, but expense and corruption seem to dog them at every turn when they try to improve things.

Do not take this as a dismissal of the Russian military. Some parts of it are quite good indeed. However, it is not the all-conquiering boogeyman some would have you beleive. It could easily defend Russian territory from all comers, and even make some inroads against its neighbors, but would not be able to defeat a united NATO in a European invasion, even in NATO's current weakened state.

13 posted on 09/18/2014 11:04:38 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Vendome

There is no reason to think that they are creating a rapid reaction force that won’t fill it’s purpose.


14 posted on 09/18/2014 11:14:40 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Olog-hai

And what this will accomplish is to encourage Putin, who’s not unaware of Russia’s experience with military forces from the west, to increase his efforts to create a Russia-friendly buffer zone between Russia and NATO.


15 posted on 09/18/2014 11:52:21 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: AzSteven

Which is why, remembering the function Poland served in the late 30’s, the Russians are doing whatever they can to keep a buffer zone between themselves and western European militaries.


16 posted on 09/18/2014 12:00:06 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Russia has nothing to fear from us, it is Russia that is the enemy and that NATO was formed to protect the free world from.

Don’t get things mixed up and start giving us enemy propaganda.


17 posted on 09/18/2014 12:19:25 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ArmstedFragg

What a crock, Russia has to conquer it’s free and peaceful neighbors to protect itself from it’s free and peaceful neighbors?

You must despise Reagan and us Cold War veterans.


18 posted on 09/18/2014 12:22:25 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

If you think reviewing history and articulating what motivates Putin is “spreading enemy propaganda”, then you’ll spend your life mystified at his actions.

Willful ignorance just isn’t my thing.


19 posted on 09/18/2014 5:29:58 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg
And what this will accomplish is to encourage Putin, who’s not unaware of Russia’s experience with military forces from the west, to increase his efforts to create a Russia-friendly buffer zone between Russia and NATO.

Oh sure.

Peace through strength doesn't work.

Peace through appeasement must be or approach.

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20 posted on 09/18/2014 5:33:38 PM PDT by FreeReign
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