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another "save the planet" scandal! another power grab from the EPA, i have been working with R134 Freon in automobiles since the early nineties and NOW all of a sudden it's dangerous to the environment and needs to be phased out immediately. what a crock! The refrigerant they want to replace R134 with is highly flammable! and CARBON based. R22 in home AC is on the chopping block also! The R134 will be like the R12 was back in the day and jump to ridiculous prices and be sold on the 'black market' so stock up while it's cheap and available imo.
1 posted on 09/16/2014 4:44:42 AM PDT by MikeinMotley
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Obola demands the new coolant be a mixture of plutonium
and EV-68, which will be made by his “children” in IS.


2 posted on 09/16/2014 4:46:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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Yet he will probably continue to use it at the WH. Now Baraq wants to punish His people by getting rid of their AC so they have to live as they do in the middle east in villages without any AC. He’s doing his very best to make life a living hell in the U. S. any way he can.


3 posted on 09/16/2014 4:52:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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As always, the eco-nuts tell us that whatever we are using is horrible and we must stop. We must use this other product instead. After a few years they tell us that the product they insist we use is horrible and the cycle repeats. I am beginning to wonder if this a a tactic to manipulate the stock market, short the current product, demonize it and go long on the substitute product.

The food NAZI’s use the same tactics, remember transfats?


4 posted on 09/16/2014 4:54:11 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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The refrigerant they want to replace R134 with is highly flammable!


How many of you think that our insurance rates will go sky-rocketing and that we will then need mandatory ‘fire suppression’ systems retrofitted into our houses plus mandatory yearly fire-inspections?

And as an added bonus, Gun-owners can expect to go on ‘lists’ too if guns are discovered during those inspections.


5 posted on 09/16/2014 4:56:44 AM PDT by The Working Man
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These peole will never stop.

IMHO


7 posted on 09/16/2014 5:00:01 AM PDT by ripley
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As per Agenda21/Sustainable Development, aka the U.N.’s “Plan for the 21st Century” which is now govt. policy: air conditioning is “not sustainable”.


8 posted on 09/16/2014 5:15:44 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Beware of "enviromentalist" spewing lies)
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Don't they mean “refrigerant” not “coolant”?
10 posted on 09/16/2014 5:20:54 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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Here they go again! This resurrects a very deep hatred of the environazis with me, they cost me my career in refrigeration as I am allergic to the concocted, legally mandated replacement for Freon. What really pisses me off is the fact it was only banned here, the rest of the world still used CFC’s and AFAIK still do! Bastards, the lot!


11 posted on 09/16/2014 5:21:57 AM PDT by W. (All leaders are sensitive to the working class--that's how they avoid belonging to it.)
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“Maurice Strong, Secretary-general of the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) in Rio de Janeiro said, “. . . Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat consumption and large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.” A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations.

In other words, the Global plan is for us to live on the level of third world nations. That means limited use of fuel of any kind (we will ride bicycles instead of riding in automobiles), no air-conditioning, and we will all be forced to live in tiny apartments in tenement buildings in the middle of a city”.
http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/home_study/agenda_21.htm


12 posted on 09/16/2014 5:22:10 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Beware of "enviromentalist" spewing lies)
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A patent must be running out! We are only using this stuff because it was mandated to replace the old Freon which was said to be destroying the Big O zone or some such crap. It never worked as well as Freon. I wouldn’t be surprised if someday they find a way to change some little detail and get a new patent on Freon and then we have to go back to it. All about money folks, all about money. If we all decided to just live in a tent to avoid all this garbage that would be illegal too.


13 posted on 09/16/2014 5:26:27 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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No this Obama again.


15 posted on 09/16/2014 5:33:58 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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He should find an old refrigerator that locks from the outside and climb in with al goron.


16 posted on 09/16/2014 5:35:06 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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Another policy that, if there is another election, and if a “Republican” is elected, will never change.


25 posted on 09/16/2014 6:21:15 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Obama seeks faster phaseout of popular coolant in effort to curb greenhouse gases

A "faster phaseout" of the wØn would be preferable!

27 posted on 09/16/2014 6:29:45 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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This is BS...

The reason the gov’t is requiring a switch in coolant is that the patent rights to R22/R12 have run out.


28 posted on 09/16/2014 6:31:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Another policy that, if there is another election, and if a “Republican” is elected, will never change.


30 posted on 09/16/2014 6:46:02 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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The refrigerant they want to replace R134 with is highly flammable!

Replacing safe, simple light bulbs with mercury-filled CFLS. Banning DDT for alleged safety reasons, making it harder to destroy pests and reduce the spread of disease. Replacing Freon with R134, and now R134 with a flammable chemical.

Legislating and regulating us to death.
34 posted on 09/16/2014 7:15:52 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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Who's advising this Bastard, CARTER? Green Theology shoved down our throats!

STOP SCREWING WITH OUR FREEDOM AND ECONOMY OVER LIES!! Wtf!!

39 posted on 09/16/2014 7:32:53 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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If I remember correctly, F12 was banned because it was eating a hole in the Ozone over Australia.

The rumor mill said it was really banned because it’s patent was expiring and the company (Du Pont)that owned it didn’t want others making it, so they led the fear charge to replace R12 with R134.

Maybe R134 is now about to expire.


40 posted on 09/16/2014 7:36:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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And, of course, this has nothing to do with the patent on R134a expiring in 2019.
44 posted on 09/16/2014 7:56:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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