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Child firing Uzi at Ariz. shooting range accidentally kills instructor, police say
CNN ^ | August 28, 2014 | Steve Almasy, AnneClaire Stapleton and Ray Sanchez, CNN

Posted on 08/28/2014 7:05:52 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals

A shooting instructor is dead, the victim of a gun-range accident. A 9-year-old girl is surely traumatized. And plenty of people, including many gun enthusiasts, are asking: Why give a child a submachine gun to shoot? Snip

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: childinstructor; uzi
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Uzi, full auto, standing, for a 9 year old that’s small and that might have never shot before... not the best decisions if one considers risks and mitigation of them. Still feel sorry for the instructor though.


21 posted on 08/28/2014 7:42:25 PM PDT by Red6
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To: 353FMG

“Are they siding with the terrorists?”

Of course they are.


22 posted on 08/28/2014 7:45:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red6

The girl was experienced with firearms. I think she just didnt have the strength.


23 posted on 08/28/2014 7:46:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

When I read stories like this, I have to assume that people like this instructor were on some level ready to die. He was lucky to have died doing something he loved and in a place that made him happy.


24 posted on 08/28/2014 7:46:37 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: driftdiver

She wasn’t experienced with an Uzi and the instructor, from what I saw on the video did a poor job instructing.

Sorry he was killed but it was entirely his fault and the young girl will have to live with that for the rest of her life.

Very sad all around.


25 posted on 08/28/2014 7:54:33 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: driftdiver

The Oregonian newspaper has already put out three articles on this. Pathetic.


26 posted on 08/28/2014 7:55:48 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Sacajaweau

The context of ALL earthly human life is to die. It’s not whether — it’s when and how. And God has an appointment book for that. One could quibble about rapture events but those doubtless exchange fleshly bodies for heavenly ones, so the fleshly bodies are done away with, i.e. die.

Anyhow I choose the non smoking section for my seat in eternity.


27 posted on 08/28/2014 7:57:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: driftdiver

Shooting a lightweight pistol, maybe? But to get the idea of what happens with an automatic repeat fire weapon, perhaps a good idea would be to give the child a garden hose with an angled trigger handled nozzle set to water jet. Squeeze the handle, kid, notice what happens? See it cock back, maybe squirt you in the face? Well it will happen with the gun too. Better be very sure you are prepared to hold force against that.


28 posted on 08/28/2014 8:00:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: sagar

I don’t think I would start a 9 yo out with an Uzi. Maybe a single shot .410. Something simple, slower. But I think 9 is a little young. The instructor should have said no.


29 posted on 08/28/2014 8:03:18 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Tau Food

That is an interesting way to look at this.


30 posted on 08/28/2014 8:04:20 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Meanwhile, how many people died today in wrecks, drownings, falls and the like?

Accidents happen. Get over it.


31 posted on 08/28/2014 8:05:31 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SpeakerToAnimals; Tau Food

Well good thing it did not take the kid with it...


32 posted on 08/28/2014 8:05:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: sagar
Of course the girl killed the guy

No, the bullets killed the guy. The person in charge of the bullets was the instructor. So this was an accidental suicide.

The lesson here is NEVER LET A 9 YEAR OLD FIRE AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON. After 2 or 3 rapid recoils the gun will be pointed backwards. The person in charge of the deadly weapon was the instructor. He paid for his stupidity with his life.

Let's give him a Darwin award.

33 posted on 08/28/2014 8:06:50 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Tau Food
He was lucky to have died doing something he loved

That can be said of just about everyone who has died of a drug overdose.

34 posted on 08/28/2014 8:08:25 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: driftdiver

Did the instructor know this girl and her abilities?


35 posted on 08/28/2014 8:14:17 PM PDT by Red6
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To: P-Marlowe
That can be said of just about everyone who has died of a drug overdose.

That's sometimes true, but often the drug overdose comes at a time when the person hates the fact that he/she feels the need to take the drug. It isn't fun forever.

36 posted on 08/28/2014 8:14:45 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: P-Marlowe

“No, the bullets killed the guy. “

Wrong. Bullets don’t kill people, people do. In this case, the “people” are the girl (of idiot parents) who pulled the trigger and the idiot instructor who couldn’t even do his own job.


37 posted on 08/28/2014 8:28:42 PM PDT by sagar
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
Vacca had his right hand on the girl's back
and his left hand under her right arm when he was shot.

The instructor should have controlled the muzzle.

Uzis do not have clips, that have magazines.

Most of CNN's experts are ignorant of firearms and safety.


38 posted on 08/28/2014 8:32:19 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: driftdiver
He should have been holding the weapon with her. Even some adults can’t handle these types of firearms.

An 8 year old boy, son of a doctor, killed himself with an Uzi at a Massachusetts gun show in 2008. I guess the word did not get out that Uzi's are a bit much for little children.

When in Vietnam, we were practicing shooting targets by a hillside. Some ARVN's were there. They were using carbines. An American lent one his M16. The ARVN squatted down, aimed, and pulled the trigger. It was on automatic. The ARVN tumbled backwards with his finger on the trigger spraying rounds in an overhead arc. Luckily, no one got hit.

39 posted on 08/28/2014 8:43:35 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Sacajaweau
The instructor was doing a good thing that went terribly wrong.

The instructor was doing a stupid thing.

You let a young child drive a go cart, not a race car.

40 posted on 08/28/2014 10:15:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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