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Ukraine Rebels Conscript ‘Punishment Brigades’ for Support Work
nytimes ^ | AUG. 4, 2014 | ANDREW E. KRAMER

Posted on 08/05/2014 1:17:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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1 posted on 08/05/2014 1:17:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ukraine has been using criminals as cannon-fodder for quite a while:

Ukrainian lawmaker admits half Azov battalion fighting in Donbass composed of criminals
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_24/Ukrainian-lawmaker-admits-half-Azov-battalion-fighting-in-Donbass-composed-of-criminals-3274/


2 posted on 08/05/2014 1:27:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Thanks for the view from the Kremlin. What would FR do without you? Please never leave.


3 posted on 08/05/2014 1:31:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Stalin used penal battalions for clearing minefields with thier feet.


4 posted on 08/05/2014 1:32:20 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: tcrlaf
Pro-Russian rebels force children to hold signs on frontline

UKRAINE Lugansk: "Pro-Russia hide behind children

Report: Putin threatens to use Ukrainian women, children, as human shields

Putin: Listen to me. Listen to me carefully. I want you to correctly understand me.

If we reach that decision, only if we reach that decision, it will only be for the defense of Ukrainian citizens, let anyone from the military dare shoot at their own people which we will be behind, not in front but behind, let them try and shoot at women and children.

Let me see who in the Ukraine will give such an order.


5 posted on 08/05/2014 1:39:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: forgotten man

The difference here is that, it appears that the Donetsk rebels are engaged in impressment, whereas the Ukrainian military is doing something entirely different. I’ll wait for a Russian to chance along and explain the difference, if they can.


6 posted on 08/05/2014 1:39:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Berlin_Freeper
This is all made possible by Osama Obama’s pledge of “flexibility” to Vlad Putin.Vlad would never have pulled a stunt like this with President Reagan or Bush Sr or Jr.
7 posted on 08/05/2014 1:42:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (We're The First Generation Not Forced To Fight To Defend Our Freedom.And It Shows!)
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To: 1rudeboy; tcrlaf

It is amazing how with much of the civilized western world against what Putin invading Ukraine, that the Putinistas think they can win 1/1,000,000,000 of a point for Russia.


8 posted on 08/05/2014 1:45:37 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 1rudeboy; tcrlaf

Perhaps tcrlaf can also explain this away:

British medical student kept as a slave by pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine is freed after two-week ordeal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716524/British-medical-student-kept-slave-pro-Russian-rebels-Ukraine-freed-two-week-ordeal.html


9 posted on 08/05/2014 1:46:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 1rudeboy

“The difference here is that, it appears that the Donetsk rebels are engaged in impressment, whereas the Ukrainian military is doing something entirely different.”

The rebels are using drunks to dig ditches.
Lyashko is releasing criminals from prison to fight for his Nazi battalions.

There is a precedent for this.
Oskar Dirlewanger, the worst Nazi War Criminal of them all, did the exact same thing during WW2, and was very active in Ukraine, putting down partisans. It was Dirlewanger’s troops that brutally put down the Warsaw Uprising, as well.

The Soviets had a standing order that Dirlewanger’s men were to be shot on sight, preferably after torture, with no quarter given.

I wonder if Lyashko fancies himself as the modern-day Dirlewanger.


10 posted on 08/05/2014 1:50:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Lyashko is releasing criminals from prison to fight for his Nazi battalions.

I didn't gather that information from the link that you provided. Did RT tweet it, perhaps?

11 posted on 08/05/2014 1:53:28 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Donetsk terrorists openly recruit child soldiers
12 posted on 08/05/2014 1:55:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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You are late to the party, we went over this last night..... Right Sector has been recruiting kids to fight for their militias for weeks. This pic is from a departure blessing ceremony in Dnipropetrovsk for a "Special Police Battalion", attended by Filatov, posted on Twitter on July 12th. Who knows if these kids are still alive...
13 posted on 08/05/2014 2:01:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

There’s a FReeper around here who is fixated on “diversion.” Don’t care to look up who it is. Funny, I don’t recall you guys ever having a spat.


14 posted on 08/05/2014 2:05:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

All you have there is a group photo that includes family at a ceremony. Meanwhile the terrorists have children in the street sitting at the ready.

I notice you style yourself the leader here, a sort of keeper and presenter of all Putin’s propaganda.

Tell me tcrlaf, what would you be without Putin invading Ukraine?


15 posted on 08/05/2014 2:11:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Here's the part I find most disturbing:

The rebel commander, known by his nickname, Lukich, said he treated the detainees humanely. The practice achieves two objectives, he said, imposing the social rules infused with Russian Orthodox Christian values of the new state, while helping the city’s defenses. Drug addicts are summarily sentenced to trench digging.

Jeepers, who do these guys think they are, Muslims?
16 posted on 08/05/2014 2:12:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Lyashko is releasing criminals from prison to fight for his Nazi battalions.

Where are the Zyklon B facilities?

17 posted on 08/05/2014 2:15:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There are PLENTY of people here more than willing to post Kiev propaganda, straight from the tap.

I am trying to provide balance, to what I have found to be wild, over-the-top, and exaggerated claims by Kiev, and it’s propagandists.

For that I have been called names, cajoled, and even threatened.

Like it or not, it’s that very bashing that has made me dig deeper into what is really going on, much to the Kiev propagandists ire.


18 posted on 08/05/2014 2:17:24 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Where are the Zyklon B facilities?”

They probably aren’t that far into the future, if things continue as they are:

On Aug 2, Lyashko, still a Rada PM, called for the death penalty for antiFascists and any accomplices by HANGING.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1407058971
http://politikus.ru/events/26144-lyashko-prizval-veshat-moskovskih-okkupantov-i-ih-posobnikov.html


19 posted on 08/05/2014 2:21:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Nothing.


20 posted on 08/05/2014 2:26:08 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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