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To: SMARTY

Impeachment is a political act.

So lets use it to our advantage, not our disadvantage.

Impeachment now will vastly increase Democrat turn out in November.

Stupid idea.


21 posted on 07/09/2014 8:07:03 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Agree. Impeachment plays into the Obama Victim Card Syndrome and will super motivate his (unemployed and suffering demotivated) base.

Look at the radio lies they had to run to get Thad voters in MS, and even then they had to turn around and pay them.


28 posted on 07/09/2014 8:09:19 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Kansas58

Maybe ...but American cannot kick the can down the road much longer.

It’s how we got into this jackpot!


41 posted on 07/09/2014 8:15:08 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Kansas58
Impeachment is a political act. So lets use it to our advantage, not our disadvantage. Impeachment now will vastly increase Democrat turn out in November. Stupid idea.

With all due respect, it is exactly this kind of thinking that has gotten us into the mess we're in now. Short-term political advantage should not trump principles. When Congress sees the President and his agents committing unconstitutional acts, it is their duty and obligation to take action. Failure to act will only foster future tyranny by the Executive Branch. Personally, I believe that the conservative position on this is to do what is right for the country even if it entails short-term sacrifice (and I'm not convinced that the interests of the conservatives and the Republican Party are aligned).

The way that the Republican "leadership" is framing this, they have already surrendered. They are afraid to challenge Obama because it will rally his base but by not challenging him, the Republicans are giving him the authority to rule by fiat. These vague threats of doing something after the elections (with their dreams of controlling both houses of Congress) are meaningless and Obama knows it. As soon as the elections are over, the argument will become impeachment is too divisive and besides Obama only has two years left. Or that impeachment is a waste of time because there will be no conviction. (We have already seen both these arguments on this thread.)

Impeachment is as much about future Presidents as it is about Obama, so the timing and conviction concerns are irrelevant. If Congress stands aside and lets Obama run roughshod over it and the Constitution, the stage is set for even greater abuses in the future. Palin is right in thinking long-term about winning the war and Boehner is wrong for thinking of only the short-term consequences. One is speaking as a statesman, the other as a politician.

86 posted on 07/09/2014 9:34:19 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: Kansas58
Impeachment now will vastly increase Democrat turn out in November.

If we so not Impeach now,
we will be part of the Caliphate by 2016 !

95 posted on 07/09/2014 9:47:36 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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