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Palin on the wane: She's even ticking off Christians (The Left worried about Christianity?)
Newswork - Smart, Local News for the Philly Region ^ | May 2, 2014 | Dick Polman

Posted on 05/02/2014 11:02:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It's generally a waste of space to reference Sarah Palin, which is why she so rarely appears here.

She long ago devolved into a cartoon, and her clout (such as it was) continues to wane. She's like the incoherently choleric aunt you see once a year at Thanksgiving. She's like the real-life version of Kristin Wiig's brain-addled Aunt Linda.

But...

(You knew there'd be a But.)

But every great once in a while, John McCain's Hail Mary gift to America says something so scintillating that we'd be remiss to ignore it. Her remark earlier this week about the religious virtues of waterboarding - served up to rapturous applause at a National Rifle Association confab (natch) - is one such classic, because this time she even managed to infuriate her followers on the Christian right.

She wanted everyone to know that if she were President Palin, those Al Qaeda prisoners would truly have someone to fear: "They obviously have information on plots to carry out Jihad. Oh, but you can't offend them, can't make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgeon. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists."

The fun part was not her fantasy about being president (on that score, I have a better chance of morphing into Taylor Swift). No, the fun part was her comingling of Jesus and torture, her declaration that "waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists."

At first I had dismissed her remark as typically provocative Palin pap. Turns out, I had no idea how offensive it was. So I will now cede this space to the ticked-off Christians, who can explain it better than I.

Conservative commentator Mollie Hemingway, normally a Palin defender, is now assailing Palin for her "sacrilegious" comment, and "how blasphemous it sounds to the ears of Christians." Quoting the Lutheran catechism, she describes the affirmative purpose of the baptism ritual: "It works forgiveness of sins, delivers from death and the devil, and gives eternal salvation to all who believe this, as the words and promises of God declare."

In other words, says Hemingway, baptism is supposed to be "life-giving." By contrast, "waterboarding is the opposite of traditional Christian baptism. It does not work forgiveness of sins. It does not give eternal life in Christ. It is not voluntary." Therefore, it is blasphemously wrong "to joke about (baptism) in the context of waterboarding."

Meanwhile, here's Rod Dreher, senior editor at The American Conservative: "For us Christians, baptism is the entry into new life. Palin invoked it to celebrate torture. Even if you don’t believe that waterboarding is torture, surely you agree that it should not be compared to baptism, and that such a comparison should be laughed at. What does it say about the character of a person that (she) could make that joking comparison, and that so many people would cheer for it. Nothing good - and nothing that does honor to the cause of Jesus Christ. If I thought that kind of hateful declaration and abuse of the Christian religion was what conservatism stood for, I wouldn’t be able to call myself a conservative."

Here's religious writer Mary Moerbe: "Sarah Palin's brash words portray herself to be a great and powerful baptizer, not bringing faith or the forgiveness of Jesus - or even the sympathy implicit in secular uses of 'baptism by fire,' but crossing the line into government aggression, specifically against those already subdued and captive. She merged government with religion in one of the worst possible ways."

Here's divinity grad student Elizabeth Stoker, who writes regularly about Christianity. She says that Palin "sprinkled a little Christianity on top of a political framework," used Christianity "as a kind of window dressing," and attempted "to substitute the aesthetics of Christianity - its telltale words and images - for genuine Christian ethical thinking."

And here's Faith in America, an online Christian network that launched an anti-Palin petition and racked up 15,000 signatures within a day: "This is what we've come to in America. A former candidate for vice president can squate torture and Holy Baptism...portraying Christianity as a religion of hatred and violence....For Christians, torture is not a joke or a political punchline."

The petition also advises: "No media outlet should cover her remarks without reporting on how sincere Christians of all theological and political persuasions are appalled."

Consider it reported. Glad to be of service.

Or as Frederick the mural painter lamented, in the Oscar-winning film Hannah and Her Sisters, "If Jesus came back, and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up."


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It's not "Faith in America" Dick, it is "Faithful America" a George Soros funded group. Getting it now, folks?

Why is Atheist George Soros Giving Money to a ‘Faith’ Project?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/06/15/why-is-atheist-george-soros-giving-money-to-a-faith-project/

Activist group targeting Bob Newhart, Catholics is funded by George Soros
http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/25/activist-group-targeting-bob-newhart-catholics-is-funded-by-george-soros/#ixzz30aApaRQv

1 posted on 05/02/2014 11:02:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Palin is “ticking off” the Christian Left, she’s doing the right thing.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 11:03:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dick Polman is an American part-time national political columnist at The Philadelphia Inquirer and full-time Maury Povich "writer in residence" at the Center for Programs in Contemporary Writing, University of Pennsylvania.

3 posted on 05/02/2014 11:04:12 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's generally a waste of space to reference Sarah Palin,

And yet, they're doing it. She hasn't been in office or run for anything in years yet they can't stop thinking about her. She drives them insane. They know they shouldn't think about her. They hate themselves for doing it. Yet they do.

4 posted on 05/02/2014 11:07:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nutcase who thinks he is funny...

Dick Polman @DickPolman1 · 2h
If only the Rs who again are hearing “Benghazi” in their tooth fillings had been a fraction this vigilant when W marched us into wrong war.

https://twitter.com/DickPolman1

Dick Polman @DickPolman1 · 2h
W says he’s willing to advise Jeb on running. Like, “Make sure you have Florida flunkies who can certify you early & help stop a recount.”

Dick Polman @DickPolman1 · May 1
Regarding Sarah Palin, the water-boarding baptist: Palin is to politics what Kristin Wiig’s Aunt Linda character is to film criticism.

Dick Polman @DickPolman1 · May 1
Just like in PA, the WI Republicans who ginned up photo ID law couldn’t cite evidence of impersonation fraud. Shock.

Dick Polman @DickPolman1 · Apr 23
Because, come on, how can you possibly be expected to worship Jesus without toting your bang bang?


5 posted on 05/02/2014 11:08:11 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who cares? The “Christians” she is making angry are left wing Palin haters anyway.


6 posted on 05/02/2014 11:08:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Olog-hai

Including those here on FR.


7 posted on 05/02/2014 11:10:19 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: kcvl
blablablablablablablablabla

It always amazes me that these liberal theology guru's think that they know more than God Himself.

8 posted on 05/02/2014 11:11:14 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: kcvl

Gack. He’s a walking stereotype.


9 posted on 05/02/2014 11:13:36 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Soroz is funding something, be ware. beware. be ware. caveat. caution. danger. danger.


10 posted on 05/02/2014 11:14:09 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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Rent-free. You can't beat that.
11 posted on 05/02/2014 11:14:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But,but, Palin is irrelevant, has no future, the Tea Party is history, blah,blah,blah! They sure waste a lot of time on people whose opinion and influence is inconsequential.


12 posted on 05/02/2014 11:14:36 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: kcvl

I looked up “waste of oxygen” in the dictionary and that’s the picture I saw.


13 posted on 05/02/2014 11:15:42 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: Olog-hai
Christian Left

Oxymoron without the modifier: Putative.

14 posted on 05/02/2014 11:17:44 AM PDT by stevem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah won’t need to wander very far to find Christians who are happy to hear her opinions.


15 posted on 05/02/2014 11:19:54 AM PDT by stevem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is amazing how scared they are of her. It really shows what a force she still is.


16 posted on 05/02/2014 11:20:10 AM PDT by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind."d)
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To: stevem

Not any more. I have seen plenty of self professed ‘Christians’ push hard here for ‘lesser evil’ voting. If someone can explain how a christian can advocate for something they know to be evil in the first place, I’d love to have it explained and publicly justified Biblicaly.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 11:22:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: kcvl

Aptly named, isn’t he?


18 posted on 05/02/2014 11:25:38 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Mygirlsmom

He’s fairly ugly.


19 posted on 05/02/2014 11:27:09 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same Christians that support criminal immigrants most likely.


20 posted on 05/02/2014 11:27:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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