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Shooting at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina Leaves 1 Marine Dead
TIME ^ | April 8, 2014 8:20pm EDT | David Winograd

Posted on 04/08/2014 6:04:09 PM PDT by blueplum

Authorities say the shooter at the Marine Corps base camp is no longer active

A Marine fatally shot a fellow service member at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina Tuesday, the base said in a statement. The shooting occurred at around 5:30 p.m.

The gunman, a Marine standing guard at the base’s main gate, discharged an M4 rifle, killing another guard.

Camp Lejeune’s provost marshal said the shooting is not thought to be an act of terrorism and that the shooter is no longer active.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: camplejeune; marines; shooting
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To: Drew68
exceeding enlistment and retention goals.

There are no jobs to be had.

I know the derelicts are getting the six-six-and a kick, as should be.

How dare you tell me I better "get used to it". I will not ever accept homosexually as the norm. You, however....

41 posted on 04/08/2014 7:25:59 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SgtBob
How dare you tell me I better "get used to it".

If you want to serve, you'd better get used to it.

I have no patience for this "low morale" sniveling. If you can't hack it, GTFO. There's plenty of other people lined up to take your place.

As far as women and gays in the military go, it's never going to get repealed. Ever. Get used to it or go home. You don't have to like it. You don't have to enlist or re-enlist either. The Corps doesn't care either way. See my previous comment on enlistment and retention.

42 posted on 04/08/2014 7:32:03 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: SgtBob

Morale is to blame?

For the Camp Lejuene shooter?

Wow, that’s a jump. He wanted all the women out of the Marine Corps? Was he a Marine?

The guy at Ft Hood wanted the women out of the army? Maj hasan didn’t want women and gays in?

Who else is there?

We can throw in the boston bombers, the DC shooter, they all wanted the gays and women out, by your reasoning.

Just wow.


43 posted on 04/08/2014 7:39:16 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Drew68

Hey, Cat, I’m outta there! Embrace it, live it, love it. I ain’t gotta do it. To each his own, Pal.


44 posted on 04/08/2014 7:42:37 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: stanne

Have you been under a rock?


45 posted on 04/08/2014 7:42:58 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SgtBob
The military has indeed fallen a long way from the standards once held as the bulwarks of this nation.

Truly a sad thing to see.

46 posted on 04/08/2014 7:44:56 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: stanne

Maybe if you served you might understand....I can tell from your post you can’t get the gist of my post.


47 posted on 04/08/2014 7:45:37 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: blueplum

Weird. Almost the same as what was posted online at WWAY TV in Wilmington, NC.

http://www.wwaytv3.com/2014/04/08/camp-lejeune-marine-dies-from-gunshot-while-guarding-main-gate

CAMP LEJEUNE, NC (WWAY) — A Camp Lejeune Marine standing guard at the base’s Main Gate is dead after he was shot by a bullet from another Marine’s rifle.

A news release from Camp Lejeune says at about 5:30 p.m., a Marine standing guard at the Main Gate discharged a M4 rifle. The shot hit and killed another Marine guard.

The Marine Corps has not yet released the name of the Marine who died as it tries to notify the Marine’s family.

According to the release, the Base Provost Marshal said the incident is being considered neither an act of terrorism nor an active shooter event.

The incident is currently under investigation by Naval Criminal Investigative Service.


48 posted on 04/08/2014 7:48:07 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I wasn’t in the military, but my father, husband and daughter were and our son-in-law is. We all thank you for your service.

Women are just as important as men in the military, but some can’t see that.


49 posted on 04/08/2014 7:52:44 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Utilizer; SandyInSeattle

I ain’t seen a church in a coons age, but I pray to The Lord every night to save our troops from Sodom. I weep.

The only way to fix it is to start from scratch...bring all troops home, and give them to states Governors...militia. Quit the social experiment that is the DOD.


50 posted on 04/08/2014 7:58:10 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Semper Fi, Marine, and thank you for your faithful, professional, and long-standing service to our Nation!

Get Some!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

51 posted on 04/08/2014 8:05:14 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Bushbacker1

Oh, good. Maybe you can explain.

Exactly what type of incidents?


52 posted on 04/08/2014 8:18:46 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SgtBob

Don’t know why youre so sure I didn’t serve


53 posted on 04/08/2014 8:21:32 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Instinct, guided by commonsense.


54 posted on 04/08/2014 8:26:24 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SgtBob

Certainty. Hmm. Ok


55 posted on 04/08/2014 8:29:01 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

BINGO!


56 posted on 04/08/2014 8:42:22 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I dont propose to speak for Sgt Bob. I am sure that he can do that for himself. But I suspect that he is speaking of the current mania in the armed forces to force fit/shoehorn women into combat and combat support roles for which they are largely wholly unsuited to the resultant detriment of the combat readiness of those forces, NOT stateside administrative clerical duties.

On 20 November 1943, during the horrific fighting on Betio atoll during the battle of Tarawa, two Japanese tanks mounted a counterattack against the fragile Marine toehold on Red Beach 3. The Marines were huddled there at the base of a seawall in the face of withering fire from Admiral Keiji Shibasaki’s fanatical Japanese Naval Landing Force defenders who were slaughtering hundreds of their 2nd Marine Division comrades in Betio Lagoon during 76 hours of some of the most savage fighting in the history not only of the Marines, but the US armed forces.

Marine anti-tank gun crews were trying to figure out how to get their 912 lb 37MM M3 antitank guns over the 7 foot plus seawall. The battery commander ordered his 5 man crews to LIFT them over. Being Marines who always obeyed even seemingly impossible orders, they did EXACTLY that and promptly knocked out the tanks. They then engaged several enemy bunkers whose dual purpose guns were repeatedly knocking out the approaching landing craft and put them out of action. Finally they routed a local counter attack of 200 or so Japanese against the south shore of Red Beach 3 with canister shot, all of this at a critical and precarious point in the landing.
Whats that about upper body strength being not as important
in modern warfare anymore and that women are just as likely to be able to do the job of combat infantry?

I mean no disrespect to the female perssonnel of the US Armed Forces who have served and ARE serving their nation honorably and well. I respect them as fellow vets and comrades in arms. Policy decisions are above their level for the most part.

But as a matter of POLICY, I think that women should be excluded from the armed forces for the most part, with a few exceptions and COMPLETELY from combat and most combat support roles, particularly when the armed forces are a small percentage of the total population, as is the case now. The use of significant numbers of women should be reserved for large scale mobilization as was the case in WWII. The population base is more than twice as large now as then and there would be no problem securing a sufficient number of qualified men with appropriate incentives for such a relatively small armed forces.

The advantages for the armed forces, particularly the Army would be greater flexibility as to how personnel can be deployed in combat emergencies and other contingincies and a lesser logistical strain as involves clothing, barracks and housing, and innumerable other considerations that are exclusive to the maintenence of large numbers of women. I think morale and discipline would also be improved as well.
The courts have repeatedly ruled that the armed forces are exempted from many of the equal opportunity requirements of the civillian world, and for the very good and sufficient requirements that are unique to the armed forces. This contretemps is being propelled largely by the cultural marxist wing of gender equity feminism who wish for the placement of a leftist Chairwoman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The resultant detriment of the ability of the armed forces to fight plays no consideration in their calculus, other than as an peripheral side benefit.

I know that women have played a vital role during guerrilla, partisan warfare and sabatoge/espionage activity. But to deliberately employ them in ground combat units whose primary task is to close with, engage and destroy similar enemy units is the height of lunacy and madness given the effort required to identify the relative few who could qualify even if we ignore the potential detriments to morale and discipline.

This is sheer and utter madness akin to allowing open homosexuals to serve in the armed forces.


57 posted on 04/08/2014 8:45:25 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: blueplum

Just read about it at Fox. Heartbreaking. Bewildering. Prayers for families, friends, and brothers.


58 posted on 04/08/2014 8:53:01 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SandyInSeattle

my mom was in WW2....no, not a heroic pilot nor did she storm Normandy beach....she did care for TB patients and other sick and injured in the military.....I’m sure she lived a lot of hell thru their injuries and sicknesses...


59 posted on 04/08/2014 8:59:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SandyInSeattle

God Bless, and thank you.


60 posted on 04/08/2014 9:35:23 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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