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To: meatloaf

How would you feel if Russia armed Separatists in Mexico bent on returning California to Mexico?


17 posted on 03/21/2014 8:03:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Did you miss the recent articles on Russia’s plans in South
America? We wouldn’t be making the first move.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 8:12:29 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: dfwgator

False analogy.

Ukraine is not Russian. Language and customs are as distinct as Russia and Poland. In fact, Ukraine shares as much history with Poland as they do with Russia.

Ukraine was once ‘united’ to Poland and also to Russia in the sense of administrative control. But Ukraine declared independence from both long ago.

Your analogy is false because there are no ‘separatists’ in Ukraine. There are Russian groups inside the Crimea that are descended from Russians moved to Crimea under Soviet orders to maintain control of a warm water naval port.

A more apt analogy would be the USA arming separatists in Panama to take back the Canal Zone. But that’s not happening.

I know well about the distinctions because over the past 15 years I have had many Ukrainian immigrants working for me. Their language and history, including religious traditions are different from Russia’s. There are similarities but they are as different as Basque and Spaniards except that Ukraine has for much of its history been an independent nation with its own capital.

The reason that most Americans oppose counteraction or pushback to Putin is because they are ignorant of history. The very same attitudes existed when Germany took over the Sudentenland and then went on to annex all of Czechoslovakia. Everywhere there were German groups abroad, Germany invaded for purposes of protecting German groups abroad.

Putin is a thug who is following in Germany’s footsteps. He has designs to annex all of Ukraine. He has warned Estonia the same could be coming to them. He can and likely will warn Latvia of the same and may try again with Georgia. The Poles and Lithuanians are not far behind.

Putin must be pushed back on just as Bush pushed back on him on Georgia. But this will not happen under Obama.

Mark it here that in 5 years Americans will be grumbling about why nothing was done under Obama to pushback against Putin. And Obama will be branded as the worst president ever in foreign affairs,


27 posted on 03/22/2014 3:59:08 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: dfwgator

Bravo.


44 posted on 03/22/2014 7:03:53 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: dfwgator
How would you feel if Russia armed Separatists in Mexico bent on returning California to Mexico?

That WOULD be in our back yard, unlike Crimea.

68 posted on 03/22/2014 1:19:37 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: dfwgator; MarMema
How would you feel if Russia armed Separatists in Mexico bent on returning California to Mexico?

Is Russia the Ukraine? Is Crimea the Separatists? Is the Ukraine Mexico? Were Crimeans illegally immigrating into Russia claiming mistreatment? Was there a violent Crimean separatist movement?

73 posted on 03/22/2014 2:19:18 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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