Posted on 03/17/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Andrei Illarionov, formerly Vladimir Putins top economic advisor (and personal envoy to the G8) , has warned in an interview with Ukrainian television that Putin has already declared war on Kiev. Putins war is being conducted by Russian Spetsnaz (special operations) forces and KGB (now called FSB) agents and is aimed at toppling the pro-Western government in Kiev. The Spetsnaz forces orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles. Putins subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display. Their orders include as well the deliberate killing of Russian soldiers and of ethnic Russian civilians to prove the hatred and extremism of radical Ukrainian nationalists. These orders come from Putin himself. Their goal is to create an image of intolerable chaos and loss of civil authority to justify a Russian takeover of all Ukraine. Putins goal is the destruction of pro-Western authority in Ukraine, the total humiliation of the West, and a makeover of the geopolitical balance.
Illiaronovs urgent advice to Ukraine: Place all your effort into preserving civil order and avoid falling for the Spetsnaz provocations. (This will be difficult as Spetsnaz-organized gangs are already storming public buildings in East Ukraine). Ukrainian authorities must immediately close all borders with Russia to slow the infiltration of Spetsnaz and FSB destabilization units. Ukrainian TV and radio must immediately broadcast all their news in Russian or in English because many Ukrainian citizens and Russians do not understand Ukrainian.
Illarianov pleads that the whole world understand what Putin is up to. A Putin success in taking over Ukraine would change Europe and the balance of power and lead to further restorations of the former Soviet Union...
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
“Ukrainians are no more anti semitic than Russians are anti semitic or Americans are anti semitic.”
Have Russians or Americans stabbed Hillel Cohen, Ukraine director of the Jewish ambulance corps Hatzalah, in Kiev in the night of March 14 2014?
Have Russians or Americans hurled anti-Semitic slurs during the attack, making H.Cohen the third Jew to be assaulted, and the second to be stabbed, in Kiev since January 2014?
The presence of far-right anti-Semitic elements in the Maidan mob, and in the Maidan-Ukrainian government, is well known by now. They were parading with SS insignia, made the nazi salute and are ready to kill the “Zhyds”. One of them treated the actress M.Kunis, who is born in Ukraine, of “dirty Jewess”.
So I am going to bed and try to get away from it for awhile...God be with the Jews in Ukraine. Let it all go away and be a nightmare of short duration. I have a terrible feeling this is just the beginning. And I want to spit so many times on McCain.
Given the way the Russians pulled off the spectacular coup of convincing segments of the world (including many blacks) that the CIA invented AIDS to kill black people, it would not surprise me if a senior Jewish-Ukrainian figure was correct about a Russian hand in this:
From the New York Review of Books:In a press conference of his own in New York, also on March 3, Bleich said that “things may be done by Russians dressing up as Ukrainian nationalists” in the “same way the Nazis did when they wanted to go into Austria and created provocations.”
In an email to the Post, Zissels wrote that he had looked into several attacks against Jewish targets that have occurred since Ukraine’s civil unrest began last November.
The manner in which several of the attacks were carried out and similarities between the incidents indicated a high degree of professionalism, he said.
“I have never claimed that the Russian government or Yanukovich administration were anti-Semitic,” he added. “It is much worse – they are cynically willing to play the Jewish card in the implementation of their objectives, and are therefore [shown to be] willing to sacrifice Jews.
The protests in the Maidan, we are told again and again by Russian propaganda and by the Kremlin’s friends in Ukraine, mean the return of National Socialism to Europe. The Russian foreign minister, in Munich, lectured the Germans about their support of people who salute Hitler. The Russian media continually make the claim that the Ukrainians who protest are Nazis. Naturally, it is important to be attentive to the far right in Ukrainian politics and history. It is still a serious presence today, although less important than the far right in France, Austria, or the Netherlands. Yet it is the Ukrainian regime rather than its opponents that resorts to anti-Semitism, instructing its riot police that the opposition is led by Jews. In other words, the Ukrainian government is telling itself that its opponents are Jews and us that its opponents are Nazis.
The strange thing about the claim from Moscow is the political ideology of those who make it. The Eurasian Union is the enemy of the European Union, not just in strategy but in ideology. The European Union is based on a historical lesson: that the wars of the twentieth century were based on false and dangerous ideas, National Socialism and Stalinism, which must be rejected and indeed overcome in a system guaranteeing free markets, free movement of people, and the welfare state. Eurasianism, by contrast, is presented by its advocates as the opposite of liberal democracy.
The Eurasian ideology draws an entirely different lesson from the twentieth century. Founded around 2001 by the Russian political scientist Aleksandr Dugin, it proposes the realization of National Bolshevism. Rather than rejecting totalitarian ideologies, Eurasianism calls upon politicians of the twenty-first century to draw what is useful from both fascism and Stalinism. Dugin’s major work, The Foundations of Geopolitics, published in 1997, follows closely the ideas of Carl Schmitt, the leading Nazi political theorist. Eurasianism is not only the ideological source of the Eurasian Union, it is also the creed of a number of people in the Putin administration, and the moving force of a rather active far-right Russian youth movement. For years Dugin has openly supported the division and colonization of Ukraine.
The point man for Eurasian and Ukrainian policy in the Kremlin is Sergei Glazyev, an economist who like Dugin tends to combine radical nationalism with nostalgia for Bolshevism. He was a member of the Communist Party and a Communist deputy in the Russian parliament before cofounding a far-right party called Rodina, or Motherland. In 2005 some of its deputies signed a petition to the Russian prosecutor general asking that all Jewish organizations be banned from Russia.
True, even opposition (to Russian political dominance) leader Yulia Tymoshenko spoke Russian and did not speak Ukrainian until a few years ago. However, this demonstrates the foolishness of assuming all Russian speaking Ukrainians are pro Russian.
And lots of FReepers are backing Putin too.
The neo-nazi national-socialist Svoboda is currently holding 36 seats in the Ukrainian parliament. It is also part of the Alliance of European National Movements, along with the British National Party and Hungary's neo-nazi Jobbik party (43 seats in the Hungarian parliament and two in the European parliament). Here we can see the U.S. Assistant secretary of State Victoria Nuland with Oleh Tyahnybok (left), chief of svoboda:
As for the Pravy Sektor group, its neo-nazi members are the most violent elements in the streets of Kiev. During the Maidan fights, they carried shields marked with neo-nazi logos:
It’s important to remember that when it comes to foreign ops, the Russians have by far the biggest, most experienced, and the most skillful, propogandist operation going.
Unless someone has pretty solid evidence otherwise, to the best that I can ascertain, the Ukrainian Parliament has not significantly changed membership in all this, and they can toss out the present leadership more easily than they impeached Yanukovych. Has Ukraine’s Parliament been Nazi all along? (Rhetorical question.)
Really though, most of this is irrelevant noise compared to what happens when the rest of the world sees the US and its people (not just Obama! Just look at half the posts here!) unwilling to live up to a MAJOR negotiated Security Assurance, one reaffirmed repeatedly from 1994 to 2009.
I think lots of us don't want to get involved. Many many of us think Obama is a kindergartner in foreign policy compared to Putin. And McCain is an idiot.
If you think we should take on Russia under those conditions, well maybe you need to rethink things.
People get tired of backing war by supporting the wrong side.
FYI, here are kids in pre-WWII America, 'making' the Nazi salute. (FWIW, the salute used to be made when they recited The Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America NOT Nazi Germany!)
So, are GWB and 0.00 both Nazis? How about the kids pledging allegiance to the US flag? Bottom line, sunshine, cut out the bovine scat, please! It is not difficult to find a picture of a person 'making' the Nazi salute, if you spend five minutes on the internet. You seem to forget that the USSR turned Jews escaping Poland, over to the Nazis, prior to Operation Barbarossa. There is little recorded antisemitism in Russia because the press is under the control of the KGB, er, FSB. Also, there are now more 'Russian' Jews in Israel than Russia! I hope the FSB pays you well for your service to Отечество Россия.
And, oh yes, here are some Russian citizens ACTUALLY making the salute!
Citizens not government leaders. There is a difference.
Of course is it all Putin's fault, but you may want to read it anyway.
“I just cannot be more sad about seeing this happen.”
I am furious to see leaders of US and so-called “democratic” European countrirs cuddling neo-nazis in Ukraine.
The European Parliament in 2012 condemned the Ukrainian socialist-national party Svobodas racism, anti-Semitism and xenophobia as against the EUs fundamental values and principles.
One year later, the same EU and US support an illegitimate government in Ukraine, in which the same neo-nazi, antisemitic and xenophobic Svoboda party holds five key positions, including the vice-prime minister, minister of defence and prosecutor general.
The recognition of Kosovo independence set a precedent that gives Crimeans, as well as Basques and Catalans, a right for self-determination, German opposition leader said, lashing out at the Chancellor Angela Merkels support of sanctions against Russia.
Gregor Gysi, the parliamentary head of the largest lower-house opposition party in Germany the Left Party has spoken out on Thursday against German Chancellors unquestioning support of the coup-appointed Ukrainian government.
They formed a new government..... Immediately recognized by president Obama by the EU and German government as well. Miss Merkel! The vice- prime minister, the defense minister, minister of agriculture, environment minister, the attorney general.. They are fascists! he stated.
Gysi was furious that Germany is doing nothing to address the extreme right threat in Ukraine.
“With fascists in Ukraine we are doing nothing. Svoboda party has tight contacts with NPD and other Nazi parties in Europe.. The leader of this party, Oleg Tyagnibok, has recalled that literally.
The Lefts leader went on to read a quote from Tyagnibok, where he publically urged people in Ukraine to Grab the guns, fight the Russian pigs, the Germans, the Jews pigs and others.
Ukrainian is descended from the Czech language not Russian. The Russian spoken today is a low form of the language introduced by the Bolsheviks
Oh Bull sh#t.
Putins propaganda.
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/mar/01/ukraine-haze-propaganda/
Source. Prove it.
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