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To: Ohioan
The Founding Fathers considered themselves to be libertarians.

LOL, no they didn't, they were conservatives.

The Americans of 1790 would be lynching libertarians for their radical leftism.

129 posted on 03/11/2014 12:32:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.

In 1790, the words 'conservative' and 'libertarian' didn't mean what they mean today, methinks.

132 posted on 03/11/2014 12:47:25 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ansel12
Their writings tell us otherwise.

Over and over again, they talked about "Liberty." Your ex-cathedra pronouncements notwithstanding, you can cite no attack on the importance of individual liberty, by the Founding Fathers. None!

Stop disparaging those who made possible the "Liberty" that we are losing.

William Flax

P.S. Here is an analysis of the Conservative roots of Libertarianism: Liberty: The Basics.

133 posted on 03/11/2014 12:52:36 PM PDT by Ohioan
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